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Merry Prankster:
Some random thoughts about Dragonstone:

Grrrrreat opening scene!  MP was WTF? for a few seconds until he remembered the God of many faces.  Farewell and good riddance to the Frey vermin.

The Hound is becoming human.  He even attempted a prayer.  Wonders never cease.  Wait until he gets a load of his brother, king of the zombies.

Jorah turning up in some sort of confinement in the Citadel was a bit of a surprise but it makes sense.  Will Sam be able to help him?  So Dragonstone has a mother lode of dragonglass.  Shocker! (tongue planted in cheek).

Cracks appear between Jon and Sansa.  Littlefinger will be certain to break out the chisel and hammer.  Sansa appears to have learned some wrong lessons from Cersei, e.g., her Old Testament philosophy on vengeance and near-obsession with Cersei and the Lannisters.  Sansa has hardened in a troubling manner.  Jon should rest uneasily on his new throne.

Danerys homecoming was a wonderful scene.  Not a word to the very end when Dani demonstrates her ability to toss aside even a powerful, emotional moment and focus on the matter at hand.  MP wonders if Westeros is worthy of her and whether she can ever clean out the vipers’ nest that is the Seven Kingdoms.

Someone should call 911 and report that Cersei’s heart is missing.  WOW!  She is empty and appears devoid of humanity, driven only by ambition and the lust for power and revenge.  With the Lannisters’ backs to the wall look for Cersei to be at her treacherous, manipulative best.

MP continues to be impressed by the strong female leads and their powerful performances.  Each dominates the screen in a different way.  The confrontations between these three should be delicious.  And one must not forget Yara Greyjoy, Brienne, Arya or the Red Woman.

Overall, MP enjoyed the episode but it had a transitional feel, i.e. arranging the pieces on the chess board so they can be put in motion.  MP expects more action in subsequent episodes.

LindaM:
Just remember, the book series isn't finished.

ponytail:
Saw a bit today that caught the text that Sam was poring over. It mentioned something about ground dragonglass being used to cure diseases....hmmmm.

Good beginning for the new season. I see where it was the most watched episode ever!

Merry Prankster:

--- Quote from: ponytail on July 17, 2017, 11:29:25 PM ---Saw a bit today that caught the text that Sam was poring over. It mentioned something about ground dragonglass being used to cure diseases....hmmmm.

Good beginning for the new season. I see where it was the most watched episode ever!

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 Ground dragonglass.  Great catch, Ponytail!  Kudos!  MP wonders whether dragonglass is used in the forging of Valyrian steel swords.    MP read that the HBO Now website went down in large parts of North America for the first half-hour of Dragonstone and the HBO Go website went down in other parts of the world.  Both due to heavy demand.  MP supposes HBO now stands for Home Broken Office.


--- Quote from: LindaM on July 17, 2017, 01:40:06 PM ---Just remember, the book series isn't finished.

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Ah, LindaM you have hit upon a major pet peeve of mine.  Let me take a moment to review my experience with epic, Encylopediae Brittanica fantasy series.

First, Robert Jordan.  I began his Wheel of Time series in 1992 after the first three books had been published.  In 2013 I read the last volume of the series, #14.  It was written by Brandon Sanderson because Jordan had died years earlier.  At least half the books in the series were almost pure filler.   What would have been an excellent six or seven volume series became a bloated, overwrought, overwritten epic semi-mess to which Sanderson brought some semblance of order and a very satisfying conclusion.  After that 22 year experience I swore off reading any fantasy series that was not complete BEFORE I began reading it.

This brings me to the current master and chief snake-oil salesman of epic fantasy, George RR Martin.  I began reading the Song of Ice and Fire in 1996 soon after the publication of the first volume, Game of Thrones.  I have the hardcover version with the original silver foil dust jacket and it has become quite valuable.  Alarm bells went off because it was only the first book in a multi-volume series but the story was very good so I decided to persevere.  Also, at the time I believe I read somewhere that Martin intended to wrap up the story in three volumes.   What kind of fool am I?

The next two volumes came out over the next four years, a reasonable time frame, and they also were very good so I was hooked, even though Martin’s three volume plan was out the window.  I checked his website every couple of months to see when volume four, A Feast for Crows, would be finished and he lied and lied about its’ status.  Finally, he must have had an attack of conscience and made no more promises regarding a publication date.  In the meantime, the guy is attending every fantasy/sci-fi conference known to humankind (probably including those held in peoples’ living rooms) to pick up awards and give speeches and writing/editing OTHER books.

Finally, five years later, A Feast for Crows came out.  I picked up a copy within days and devoured it.  Such a disappointment!  I know many in Martin’s legion of loyal fans disagree, but I thought it was a pile of meandering drivel, far below the quality of the first three volumes.  Echoes of Jordan, where by that time I was up to my eyeballs in drivel and filler.  I swore off Martin.  Thank God I did.  Since 2005, he has published exactly ONE more volume in the series.  ONE BOOK IN TWELVE YEARS!  But to his credit, he hasn’t missed a single conference, award, speaking engagement or chance to take a bow.  With such a busy schedule how can one expect the man to find time to write?  Bronx cheer, George!

I am not exactly sure what you mean by your comment, LindaM, but my understanding is that the HBO story began to depart from Martin’s story in Season 6.  I believe seasons 7 and 8 have already been written and might be wildly different from Martin’s story but I really don’t know because he has yet to finish his version of the story.  And this jerk has the gall to already be criticizing the HBO version.  If you had completed SIF in less time than it took to fight the Hundred Years' War you would have no reason to criticize because HBO would be telling YOUR story, you bulbous, blubbering bag of wind!

I am sure many of his fans disagree with me but as far as I’m concerned, authors like George RR Martin, who have talent, use it to hook readers with the beginning of a quality story and then have those readers wait forever to lay out good money and valuable time to consume pile after pile of literary crap, are committing literary fraud upon their fans and deserve a special place in Hades.

Rant over.  I feel better now.

If anyone would like to a read a humorous satirical take on the Procrastinator-in-Chief:  http://mashable.com/2017/07/16/george-rr-martins-copy-editor-winds-of-winter/#vsFCDP0xBmqL




ponytail:
I could have written this myself, my friend! I too remember the wait for the never ending Wheel of Time series. I bet those books stacked together would be almost 3 feet tall! But, as you say, a satisfactory ending by Sanderson, whose Oathbringer series is another of those epics that I just can't turn away from. I would like to read George's last two books...I do think the next will be out within the next year, but after that, how long until the final book? I hope George lives long enough to finish (and me, too)!

Glad you are enjoying the GoT series with me! And thanks for all your input.

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