The Reality Buzz
Big Brother 21 => Big Brother 21 => Topic started by: bacali on June 24, 2019, 06:53:47 PM
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Well, everyone, our Guilty Pleasure for the summer is starting tomorrow night!!
Have any of you looked over the cast ( I have not yet)
What do you think?
Do you like anyone?
Are you getting the live feeds ?
Do you get BBAD at midnight?
Just a few ideas , to start the ball rolling for our new summer of Big Brother fun! -Dancekick-
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I have glanced at the pictures but haven't read about anyone yet.
I haven't had the live feeds in several years. It took up too much of my time when I did have it. In fact, I was still working at the time and I stayed up too late watching.
I do get BBAD. I didn't watch it as much last year as I did the year before. It was just so boring. They stayed in bed so much.
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I’ve glanced at the bios and headshots but for some reason I’m having trouble getting into this season. I’m just not excited at all and I can’t remember feeling this bored about a Big Brother premier. Hopefully the premier itself will be exciting because I do plan to watch it.
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Your both posts seem to mirror how I've been feeling. It's not that great excitement that I've had other years.
Hopefully, the cast will be better and we will love the show tonight.
I just hope they don't pull too many stupid twists.
Maybe I will read over the bios later today when I have time.
But, I usually do after the first shows when I have met the hgs.
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I would not be surprised if Jessica and Cliff are two of the four Jackson will choose to have to fight their way back into the game. The other one will probably be the other one trying to be director.
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I really can't say right now. I have a hard time each season listening to them and trying to remember who is who.
I usually have to go back and read the bios once they start the show going.
One thing I do not like is for one person to be evicted so soon into the game.
Other years it's been on their ability in a challenge, but, this season, tonight, seems to be whether they like each other. The ones not liked by Jackson will be the ones chosen to compete. *Nooooo*
Oh well, it's only the first night.
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The theme is ok so far. Camp BB could be fun, but the jury is of course still out on that one.
The camp director twist seems ridiculously overpowered with one person having the power to banish four. But at least we didn't have the women take power and boot out four guys (they absolutely should've backed Jess and kicked out four guys though, but again I'm happy it didn't happen). If the camp director is wise he should boot out four of the 'weaker' people to minimize the blow-back when one (or more) of them comes back in the game. I think he should pick Jess, Tommy, Kemi and one of the blonds to both kick out weaker challenge people and potentially get rid of major threats in Jess and Tommy. But who knows. Depending on how long it takes this twist to play out Jackson may let the power go to his head and he may start targeting physical threats instead of actual social threats. Tends to happen in BB.
Who do I like so far? It's early days yet, but I still like Nicole for being a weird nerd. I like Jack for looking like Jason Momoa and reminding me of Stargate every time he's on screen. I like Jessica just because it's nice to see BB cast a woman who isn't a size 4 or below. I like Isabella's mom ('what is Big Brother?') and her utter disappointment in her daughters life choices and I also like Isabella's impression of her mother. I feel sorry for Cliff. I think I like Ovi, but I haven't got a reason.
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:clap: :clap: Outlast. You are way more into the show than I am , at this point.
I still am learning names after just one night. -duh-
I, too, am happy to see a plus size girl in the house and an "older" person. But, they shouldn't be stand outs, but more of them.
Let's see what tonight brings.
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:clap: :clap: Outlast. You are way more into the show than I am , at this point.
I still am learning names after just one night. -duh-
I, too, am happy to see a plus size girl in the house and an "older" person. But, they shouldn't be stand outs, but more of them.
Let's see what tonight brings.
I'd love to see a wider age range too. The show was a little more varied in it's casting back in the day.
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I am with both of you. I want to see more than one older person in the house and more people who don't fit the Hollywood look. I hope Jessica stays a while but if she is nominated for banishment I am afraid even if she fights her way back in those who double crossed her will be afraid for her to stay long.
They said that only one will be sent home out of the four so Jackson is going to have three enemies from the start.
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I'm glad that Jess and Cliff survived. Power to the BB casting outliers! But I bet Jackson has already had second thoughts about wanted that camp director job. He's definitely a major target now for the three survivors. Of course his strength probably would've made him an early target anyway and Jess, Cliff and Kemi appear unlikely to amass power.... but you never know in this game.
I like Bella more and more. I think she's my official favorite right now.
It looks like the connection between Tommy and Christie was... accidental? We've gotten nothing to suggest otherwise. Come on BB you should be able to vet these people better! I hope one of them goes soon. It would taint the season if their seemingly coincidental out of the house 7 year? connection ends up deciding the season in some way.
CAN SOMEONE VOTE OUT SAM PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Okay -- the first cries of racist, prejudice, and bully showed up last night with the BB Camp Director being accused of all -- choosing people of color, prejudiced against "large size women," and throwing his weight around on Twitter. Are we going to have another season of that? Wasn't impressed with any of them so far. BB Camp Director is a little too much power and I think that he knows it. What would have been good is if they had brought in someone like, say, Evel Dick, and made them Camp Director who put people up for infractions and behavior.
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I was disappointed to see one of "the group of six" win HOH. I wanted someone to win who would put up the power people. I hope this is not another season of a large group getting rid of everyone else one by one.
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I haven't had anything to say, yet, because I just now( Sunday) watched the 2nd BB Show.
I still have trouble naming our hgs. I am getting confused between Nick and Sam. ..Analyse and Holly.
I think I will have it down soon.
Yes, it seems that now that Christie won, it was most likely two who are not in the "alliance of 6" would be put on the block. I always hate for the oldest hg to be the one evicted. So, at least Cliff made it through that maze.
I haven't watched BBAD at all yet. So now that I am caught up with aired shows, I'm looking forward to tonight's show.
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Ugh! It looks like it is going to be another of those seasons where everybody votes the same and there will be no wondering who will be voted out. I wish there was some way they could put a stop to that. It is too predictable. Now one of the alliance members has won HOH again.
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Plus this new twist is just going to ensure that Jack/Jackson and probably all the rest of the H8ful alliance will stay in the game until this twist is done because they now have absolutely no motivation to turn on Jack because he'll probably just come right back in from extinction island and it will be much smarter to just vote out the weakest people possible so that they don't vote out a comp beast and then see him come right back. And now that he's won HOH we know it will be Kemi and Jessica on the block.
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Okay! According to what I have read, both "Jack" and "Jackson" has been called on the carpet for their language and inappropriate word choices. Jack blew it off but Jackson is now worried about what the Internet is saying. He is according to tweets being really, really careful around the cameras.
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OH My Lord, what a competition last night....with SNAKES!!!
Not only could I have NOT done this comp, I almost couldn't watch it. I can't stand snakes.
I love sweet Jessica, but, unless some miracle happens I doubt we will see her in the BB house for long.
I hope Kemi nails the comp. I loved her spunk at the end of the show.
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I am surprised no one really freaked out. It was a good one. Snakes don't bother me as much as spiders! What is the category for the last comp?
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What is the category for the last comp?
'Panic' I think.
Personally I'm not enjoying this season very much. Usually I don't get this way until much later in the season. I like the little subgroup of Cliff, Nicole and Ovi, but the idea that they can somehow flip the game is just too long a shot for me to hope for.
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Let's hope an 'outsider' gets it. If David doesn't make it back in, I wish he would be able to give his power to someone else!
They need a solitary confinement room for those idiots that can't stop putting their foot in their mouth, something that will shake them up, and also make them publicly apologize for their remarks. I used to enjoy the food comps where they earned what they would eat for the week. Have they started the have-not nonsense yet? They also need to put people with a sense of humor and conversational skills in there, too. No one is standing out for me, no one seems to have a good game plan or strategy, no one knows what they are doing. Off to a baaaaad start!
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I enjoyed the snake competition. That wouldn't bother me at all. I know which are poisonous and don't mind holding one that is not poisonous.
After tonight's show I am liking David. I think he is smart to figure out who is in the alliance. He is keeping his eyes open. I wish he would spread the news to some of those underdogs who don't realize what is going on. I like him and also Ovi and hope one of them make it back in the game.
I like both the nominees too but probably Jessica more than Kemi.
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I couldn't even watch last night. I'm so sick of the Jack/Jackson running the house bit. Evel Dick even said that Jack was getting a good edit and he is tried of them also. You know, there are only two people running that house now and they are Jack and Jackson (Michie). The rest are scared of them except for their "lovers." Sheesh! Can't stand either. Jack thinks he's Aquaman and Michie thinks he is David G.
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David seems to have figured them out. Here’s to hoping he gets back in the game and takes them out.
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Michie listened in to Cliff's talk this morning then ran with the news to Jack/Aly..... Of course, now they're out for Cliff and Jess. These people are over the top ridiculous. And I don't even want to think what may happen if we get Celebrity BB.
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Going to watch last night's show later tonight. I wasn't home.
Too tired to watch BBAD, too. Half the time I can't hardly hear them with this heat
and my a/c on. -loll
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We need one of these twists to pan out for the underdogs. Come on BB, do some tilting in favor of the underdogs!
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I wonder if these people who act like Bella think they are going to be liked by the fans? She was so overbearing with Nicole tonight. I wanted Nicole to go after her. Nicole did pretty good standing up for herself later. I hope enough people will want to save her with the votes. Cliff has become a but kisser recently. I just don't like him like I thought I would.
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Bullies, bullies, bullies! Just too many of them this season. Bella is rapidly turning into one of my least favorite characters ever! (Other than Aaryn and Amanda that is. And Gina.)
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How can you pick just one. I have Jack, Jackson, Holly and Sis on my list. These four think they're in control. They're also the worse acting. I wouldn't want to touch any of the food considering some of the stunts Jackson has pulled. I don't want to be in the same room with Jack because who knows when he will go off on you. Holly and Sis are so in your face and aligned with the Jacks that they don't know right from wrong.
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I agree but don't leave out Tommy. He may not be actively awful like the rest of H8ful/Asi9, but he DOES NOTHING to stop them and if the internet is to be believed he actually eggs them on and is enjoying the show. I know I know he's in the best spot in the house and if he spoke up to help Nicole that would certainly jeopardize his game, but I still think it would be the right thing to do and he may be the only person in the house that could actually get people to listen to the truth.
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At first I thought Kemi was going to be the bully but she doesn't even come close to about six others in the game. I was surprised at how well she tolerated Jackson with the water bottle thing tonight. He was so obnoxious in the way he talked to her.
Cliff really shocked me with how well he did tonight. I felt sorry for David and Ovi. They wanted to come back so bad.
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Nothing pertaining to the game.
I was just struck by how really pretty Kemi is when she was talking to Julie. That's all..
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I think this is a first for Big Brother, at least that has been told. Holly and Jackson have crabs. Holly told some of the girls that Jackson gave them to her.
This group has set a new record with sleeping around. I think Christie and Analyse have been with Jack, Jackson is involved with Holly but I think at one time right after moving in he was interested in Kathryn ( don't know if they were in bed together). Nick and Bella are together and have declared they loved each other. This all got started about the time they all moved in together.
I guess this is a sign of what is happening in the real world today. It has become the norm and is encouraged by TV programs like Love Island, Bachelor, etc.
*vomit*
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Its super gross to me too Snowbird. I may never understand the mentality of jumping right into bed with someone especially when you know almost nothing about them.
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Its super gross to me too Snowbird. I may never understand the mentality of jumping right into bed with someone especially when you know almost nothing about them.
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Make it "me three" LOL.
I can't understand this mentality either. :smiley_confused1:
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Should I even mention that cucumber scene? :smiley_confused1:
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You would think by now the bosses know there is going to be sex in the house and would screen for STDs. So gross!
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What else does Jackson have that could be passed by drinking out of milk cartons and putting them back. I think they need to send all the houseguests home, do a good cleaning and start over. Show repeats of season 8 or 9 or one of the good seasons and forget this crap.
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I would be so embarrassed if one of them was my child. Especially the Jacks.
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Just came across this article from CBS addressing racism and bullying on the show:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/cbs-responds-as-big-brother-cast-is-accused-of-racism-bullying-we-share-some-of-the-concerns/ar-AAEQYkA?ocid=spartanntp
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Yep -- People had the same story. Basically blah blah blah, we addressed it inhouse -- ignore it. It will go away.
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Holly realized that the camera is always on them and now is reluctant to cuddle with Jackson. He has become angry over it. He is such a butt.
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My opinion on how he show is going and some of the people.
Jackson seems so immature. He thinks he is entitled to act any way he wants. He is so disrespectful to people. I don't know why everyone wants to please him. Are they doing it because they think he is in charge or he is good looking? They seem afraid to cross him.
Jack is much like Jackson but I don't think he is feared as much. I want to see them go after each other but I don't think that will happen until they are down to six.
I can't read Cliff. He seems to kiss up to Jackson but still maintain his alliance with the underdogs. Then Jackson has told him to do that so he could get information. I would like to see what he would do if he got HOH again. Would he go after the six again? I think Jackson would try to get him to go after Christie and Tommy to help him get rid of them. I would hope he would at least try to back door Jackson but is he really planning to go to the final three with Jackson and Holly like they talked about.
I would like to see what Nicole, Jessica, and Kat would do if they won HOH. Would they have the courage to go against the group? What do the rest of you think?
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So I am taking it that Cliff doesn't do his Cliff notes anymore? That was a useful insight. As much as I would like to know what is in his head, he seems to have learned his lesson and is keeping things close. Maybe he will be able to go pretty far. I just don't care about any of them yet. Jackson least of all, and I don't even think he's that cute. Kat does interest me, hoping there is something under that ditziness. What's with Jessica? Is she still playing the game or floating along? All I see is the network show, and I haven't read any of the updates.
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Jessica does discuss game a little with the outsiders as I call them. She knows she is on the list of people who will go soon if the powers keep winning.
I like Nicole and she seems to be the favorite at Jokers. She wants to play the game but doesn't have much of a chance. I would love to see who they would put up if Jessica, Nicole, Cliff, or Nick won Hoh. Nick has told the powers that he wants to be included with them again and I hope he is just buying time since they all turned on him.
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Good to know. They definitely need to turn the house around. Much as we hate some of the twists, a good one in favor of the outsiders would be welcomed by me!
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Link to vote for the BB Field Trip to see which three of these stupid boring cowards will have to compete to not be nominated. https://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/americas-field-trip-vote/ :33:
I'm not at all happy that one of the three wins safety for the week, but what can you do.
Whatever you do don't vote for Nicole or Cliff because the highest two vote getters will almost certainly be Jack and Jackson (if the online fan votes mean anything anyway) so whoever that third nominee is will have to compete against those guys in a challenge so we need to find someone who can either stand a chance of beating the boys or will at least make a satisfying nominee if and when they lose to the Jacks. At the moment I'm thinking Tommy fits the bill. The downside is that I don't think he can be voted out right now against any two people. Christie is another good candidate but she's been weak in most challenges so I feel like voting her in is just handing the win to one of the jacks. I read some want to vote Jessica just because she's useless, but that's even MORE handing the comp win to a Jack.
Any suggestions?
btw I'm totally mad that Julie made it sound like we were going to see a flip tonight only to have a unanimous vote against Sam instead of that rat Kat! :banghead:
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I would suggest Nick with the Jackasses.
I don't think Julie knew how the vote would go tonight.
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I don’t know how to make it happen but if I could pluck one person out of the house and get rid of him it would be Tommy because listening to the RHAP podcasts this morning it’s been made perfectly clear that he is the one holding this dastardly alliance together because he knows what a great chance of winning he has if the six are the final six of BB21. Get rid of him somehow and these people would start taking shots at each other and we might have a chance at the people we actually like sliding through to the end.
I’m happy to read that Jess is actually planning on taking a shot at the Jacks and not pussing out. But I think it’s Tommy that Jess really needs to get out. I’d also like to see one of Holly or Kat go. Both these outside the house couples need to be split up for the good of the tv show.
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Should have read this post first! Does Jessica have a backup plan? Because surely they will both be able to squirm their way free.
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Should have read this post first! Does Jessica have a backup plan? Because surely they will both be able to squirm their way free.
I don't know. I only know what I read this morning. I'll have to skim through some live feed threads or listen to Taran's podcast tonight to get details.
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It is so good to see the underdogs on top for now. It seems to have put some energy in their games and some hope for us viewers.
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For those of us who are voting every day for the ‘field trip’ here is a link to a RHAP podcast. Listen to the last 15 minutes if you want to know about this vote and the many things that could go wrong and why we need to spread our votes to all six + Nick to keep Cliff and Nicole safe.
https://robhasawebsite.com/big-brother-21-friday-aug-2-morning-update/
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Is Nick really on the right side? I read where last night he told Jack, Sis, and Tommy he was loyal to them. I am afraid he thinks they are the strongest side.
Christie really wants Jackson out. She is teaming up with Jack, Sis, Tommy, and Nick to get that done. She says if she hears that Jack is the target, which he is, she will use her power if the right person win POV and put up Nicole if Jackson gets taken down. I guess they will then vote out Nicole. Let's hope the right person wins POV. Kat, Nick, and Tommy were picked for POV so the odds are stacked against Jessica. I think Kat is the only one they can maybe trust.
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Honestly I spoke too soon about us (the viewers) having a peaceful week. This is horrid news. The veto draw means that unless Jessica or Jackson wins the POV... Christie will get the use her power (it's the last week anyway) and backdoor whoever the new five want (Nicole?).
Best case scenarios...
Jessica wins it (unlikely). Noms stay pat.
Jackson wins it, Christie may not even use her power here because she doesn't trust Jackson. Upside is if she does use it there's a not insignificant chance that he backdoors her with her own power. Granted Jack would probably still leave in this scenario.
Nick wins it, and it (fingers crossed) turns out he's been playing the 'five' thing and is ready and willing take a shot at them (unlikely. He seems to want back in too badly to be playing them...how can he forget so quickly???!)
Kat wins and she takes down Jack and puts up Holly as a pawn to get Jackson out.
Tommy or Jack win... I turn off my TV because Nicole or Cliff are toast.
In any case we may know soon just how badly this power will screw up Jess' HOH. :o
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Worry no more! #4846 Jessica WON POV! :whoo: :57: :08:
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10162130204155453&set=gm.2370390383050585&type=3&theater
Jackson's mother is on a rampage.
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Heard about it on Twitter last night. Jackson is not that type of boy. He's being made to appear that way by CBS. What he is doing is being directed by CBS. If he doesn't do it,he'll be in trouble (yeah, right). She even threatened to sue Evel Dick.
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CBS is not showing Nick to be the disgusting person that he is. Some of the things he has said have been awful.
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Kat is being so unfair to Cliff tonight. Cliff didn’t go against Kat. Cliff didn’t make a bunch of deals and leave Jess out. Cliff TOOK the deal that he was offered to stay alive.
Why can’t the two of them (Jess and Kat) understand that Cliff wants to stay too.
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Kat's interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO0kYko3DOk&feature=youtu.be
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Someone posted Kat's goodbye messages on Reddit (via Twitter) with the clear subtext printed below and its amazing. :043:
https://twitter.com/realityreacts/status/1162369584055427072
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They should have put a dunce hat on Sis instead of a chicken suit. That girl is dumber than dirt. She thinks she can get Jackson to take Christie down and put up Jess. Now Christie wants to talk him into backdooring Nicole. They think he just wants to get a girl out.
What can you expect from Sis since she doesn't know what a noun or a adjective is. How do they let people like that in college? She must be a good soccer player.
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Wait -- could she be part of the Ponzi scheme that got "Aunt Becky" and she contributed to that made-up foundation?
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10162130204155453&set=gm.2370390383050585&type=3&theater
Jackson's mother is on a rampage.
Darn, darn, double darn.... this is not available to see anymore.
Makes me annoyed that we are investing our time to watch the show which keeps CBS profitable, and when we see some news it's down before we get a chance to all read the news.
I will have to try to google to see what you said. But, I do , as a mother, understand that when you watch a tv show like this that the editing of your son could be different than what he is really like.
Hey.. I want to , as the saying goes," give benefit to the doubt".
I happen to like Jackson, as I have posted already in other threads. Since he was separated from Jack, he is a totally different type person. OR, is that what the editing is doing for him now?? Who knows? See how this can go?
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What does his mom use as her id on FaceBook. Every time I try to see it, I get content not available.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10162130204155453&set=gm.2370390383050585&type=3&theater
Jackson's mother is on a rampage.
Darn, darn, double darn.... this is not available to see anymore.
Makes me annoyed that we are investing our time to watch the show which keeps CBS profitable, and when we see some news it's down before we get a chance to all read the news.
I will have to try to google to see what you said. But, I do , as a mother, understand that when you watch a tv show like this that the editing of your son could be different than what he is really like.
Hey.. I want to , as the saying goes," give benefit to the doubt".
I happen to like Jackson, as I have posted already in other threads. Since he was separated from Jack, he is a totally different type person. OR, is that what the editing is doing for him now?? Who knows? See how this can go?
From what I read about Jackson on Jokers he is really a nicer guy that the show shows us. He also treats Holly like a gentleman should, unlike some of the other men we have had on BB.
He has expressed to Holly how much he hates to see those he has on the block hurt which means he really has more compassion than I do. He has talked to her about how much he admires Cliff and Nicole too.
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Well, well! Those nitwits in the house are actually thinking of keeping Christie. I guess her crying has paid off and her lying too. I think DR sessions have been making people think there might be an advantage to keeping her. Even Holly thinks it might be better to have Christy stay.
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I don’t know if this flip will happen or not. Truthfully I won’t miss Sis at all and I’ll be happy NOT to see her end up in the final two as I was expecting. The downside is that not only will Christie stay but we’ll all have to listen to her crow about it and how she ‘manifested’ this. The idea makes me sick. *vomit*
I don’t know which is the better move for Cliff and Nicole. On the one hand Sis leaving might help keep targets in the house ahead of them because Christie will always be a target. But the idea that this means that Tommy and Christie could still wind up as the final two is so sickening I’d rather she just left and ended the possibility.
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So agree Outlast. But I think that Cliff and Nicole's days are numbered. Christie, Tommy and Nick do whatever they want. They think they can smooze their way through everything.
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I think Nick will be next to go unless he wins HOH or VETO. If Christie stays I wish she would put up Michie and Holly to make them regret keeping her.
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Just found this on Joker's Update. (I'm taking a stress break at work.) What gives Christie this authority to tell production what to do.
8:19 AM Fri Aug 23 PT (edited 8:23 AM PT) by lambily4life
At 2:10 BBT - Tommy/Christie were talking in open bedroom. They are whispering about incident last week where someone used a loud speaker to announce outside that Tommy/Christie knew each other. Christie says she asked production to make sure it doesnt happen
again. Convo below:
Christie says they have managed to stay duo but then they set it over the loudspeaker. Christie says she can’t imagine how Tommy feels. Christie says she asked and they said they will have much better security. Christie says they promised they will take care of it.
(Lots of inaudible) then Tommy says he was upset becase they wanted to clip the convo of him promising Christie his vote at beginning of the week. Tommy says he was panicking because of that thing (loudspeaker thing outside) and he didn’t want to make it look like he was promising no matter what because it will show they do know each other. Tommy says they then asked so now you may not vote for Christie. Tommy says and they asked that he promised her so what changed. Tommy says she told them (DR) that it’s the incident but you are not going to show that so don’t make it seem like he is someone who goes back on his word.
Christie again wonders if it aired and Tommy said he asked if it will and will ask that they don’t air it because only reason she was considering voting Christie out was bc of the incident.
Christie says its not fair. Tommy agrees. Christie says it will compromise her game. Tommy says it should be fine now and its over. Christie tells Tommy but he needs to stop being afraid and its okay to have each others back. Says everybody has someone in here but they pretend that they are not close. Tommy says he knows etc...
NOTE that there was a lot of whispering so this is what i got from the convo. Convo started at 2am with Christie filling Tommy in that she may go up as pawn then this outside incident talk then started. Cams 3/4
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You know we have often wondered how much production has to do with the game and how they portray people. I just read something on jokers that was very interesting.
Holly was saying something about her DR session and BB got on to her about not talking about the DR. She got mad and said if they let her say what she (f-word) wanted to say in them instead of what they wanted her to say she wouldn't (f-word) have any reason to talk about them in the house. SOOO. it looks like they are more involved than we realized.
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I had a chance last night to watch a little of BBAD. The houseguests were all just sitting around together.
I have to say that this seems to be the nicest group of people I remember playing the game.
Did anyone else watch Thurs BBAD?
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I watched some of it. I saw Jess trying to put a quilt trip on Nicole because she didn't tell her Nick was the Prankster. She was told by Jackson but she didn't mention that.
This group acts like they like each other. In fact, there have been a lot of "I love you's" between all of them.
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This reminds me a little of Tom and Ian at the end in Palau. I can understand that the game/money mean a lot to you, but what I can't understand is the anger that someone would have the gall to consider voting out the top player in the game (or in this case their leech) to get themselves a better shot at winning. To me that's basic Survivor/Big Brother and it baffles me why Tom then and Jackson now are so angry over this. Tom and Ian were inseparable for 35 days (or whatever the exact count was) and the minute Tom heard that Ian even considered, just considered, voting him out... Tom made it his mission to destroy Ian. Just as Jackson now has this vendetta against Cliff and Nicole for what? Playing the game? Yes Jackson protected Cliff and Nicole (in his mind anyway, if you ask me it was Jolly who were in the actually danger from Tommy and Christie) and Cliff and Nicole protected him right back even though they probably shouldn't have. Why does he feel like they owe him so much and why does he hate them so much for considering voting out Holly?
Watching all Jackson's angry DRs upset me. I know we tend to see the game from the perspective of our favorites so maybe I'm not seeing his side that well, but I really don't understand the hatred he shows here. I think if the situation were reversed and Tommy was coming to them (Jolly) promising the moon if they voted out Cliff (who was next to him on the block) then Jackson would absolutely have considered it. Would he be evil for considering voting out Cliff over Tommy? Or would he just be playing the game and weighing his options?
I haven't even finished the episode. I'm just that upset watching Nicole cry. :'(
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I am angry with Jolly but very disappointed in Cliff because of his stupidity in trusting Jackson over anyone else and making a deal with him for final three with Jolly. Of course that never was to be since Nicole has the HOH and will automatically be in the final three. I was glad to see that Nicole has finally seen Jackson for the snake he is and that she really wanted to keep Tommy. Cliff ruined his game by not going with Nicole's feelings about Jackson but then he thought he had a deal with him.
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Has a showmance ever finished first and second in BB? MP has watched since BB11 and he cannot recall such an instance in any of those seasons.
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Has a showmance ever finished first and second in BB? MP has watched since BB11 and he cannot recall such an instance in any of those seasons.
Well depends on how you view the term showmance. Technically Boogie and Erika made it to the end together in BB7. But yeah... that was ....something else. Let’s call it a one way showmance.
Drew could’ve gone to the end with his showmance Diane in BB5 but he evicted her instead because he was sooo loyal to Cowboy.
In a way Dick and Danielle pulled this one off in BB8, but as an obvious tight pair and not as a showmance obviously.
My memory of BB11-18 is fuzzy but I don’t remember any showmantic couples making the final two in that stretch. So if Jolly pull it off they would probably be making history of a sort. I certainly hope not though.
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I was away for the actual show so I just watched it and Survivor back to back.
My first thought? *vomit* to Jackson winning. Not that Holly would’ve been much better.
A bad part of me was really happy to see Jackson get hammered so hard that he didn’t seem to enjoy winning. :97:
But why on Earth with all the bad aspects of Jackson from this summer did they pick the one thing that just doesn’t hold up as a negative against him?! Jackson banishing Kemi, David, Jessica and Cliff May have looked bad optically but he had decent enough reasons given he had so little to work with on day one or whatever this was. I don’t think any of the four hold that particular thing against him and neither do I. I don’t even think Jackson is a racist. He’s an aggressive jerk and a bully and by no means was he alone. I notice they left Tommy off the list of people they wanted to shame in the Hateful alliance but he was right in the middle of that mess and it’s him they keep showing crowing over Nicole getting shut out ‘you know exactly what’s happening!’ In that clip they play over and over. Not cool BB.
So happy for Nicole winning AFP. I only wish the had another one for Cliff.
It’s so easy to say looking back that they should’ve taken out Jackson in the double when they had all the power, but how could they know that he would win everything afterwards? BB usually has some brainy challenges near the end, but I guess they’re going to continue on this unfortunate path of making nearly every late comp physical to shut out people like Cliff and Nicole. It sucks and I don’t like it but what can I do.
BB21 is over let’s bury it and move on if we can.
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Jackson got his confetti on his shoulders, but also a thorough 'shame on you' as well. Poor baby! What an immature jerk. His bully behavior, entitled attitude, and sulking made me *vomit* He has a lot of growing up to do. Holly was very gracious and more excited for him than he was for himself. I don't remember if she had any involvement in the bully behavior though.
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I haven't been posting much due to work. It's been a rough start up with all the changes going on here.
Here's my take on this whole Jackson/Holly mess. The producers from day one had this game rigged for either him or Jack to win. I don't know why???? I sometimes wonder if there is a casting couch in Robin or Allison's office that is used for the men to audition. My one take is that from the time Jackson was on the block, production did everything they could to "protect" him. Maybe his mother threatened a law suit? Maybe he does have an eating disorder??? Maybe he is just so overprivileged that he thinks he can make up stuff as the game progresses. What surprised me was that he didn't think he would be called out. I'll give this to Jack! He owned it! Neither Christy or Jackson did.