The Reality Buzz
Non- Reality => Once Upon a Time => Topic started by: Outlast on May 19, 2015, 09:28:27 AM
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Well folks we have a new a new OUAT sub-forum to play in (thank you Snowbird!). Unfortunately our old thread hasn't made the magical journey with us (sadness), so I started a new one...
:ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity:
Enjoy! kiss1
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That's okay -- season five deserves a brand new start. And just think of all the ideas we can come up with.
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I just read a post about the character arcs for season one that got me thinking...
http://woobierumple.tumblr.com/post/119484022284
...What do you think? Her reasoning that Baelfire and Emma were always meant to be true loves makes sense given the character parallels in season one. If it's true that they abandoned their plans just because Hook was more popular, than that sucks. Hook doesn't actually need to be with Emma to stay on the show. He could be Regina's 'devilishly handsome' henchman or he could run the local fish-fry restaurant or he could be a coat-hook in Rumple's place... you know whatever.
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You know I never bought into Captain Hook. Too much manliner for me. But here's the thing with Bael. We never saw him until season two. Granted, the ties are there for Emma and Bael to be true love but let's face it, they have played fast and loose with the storylines. I honestly wonder just how many years they want this show to run. Granted LOST lasted six year but can this one go longer? Will fans stand for the the following:
Charming and Snow going wishy washy from season to season.
Emma as the Dark One?
No real role for Rumple (who has to be dark to be good) if he survives the heart thingy.
Regina as good with an evil sister.
Robin with Regina -- even though Marian is dead, is this right.
Who will end up with Zelena's child anyway.
And I want either (a) the house to drop or (b) the water to destroy her.
Dragons in our world? I think not.
And producer ruining this show like they did Torchwood.
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I think Lost is a great comparison, not only because they share some writers, but just in general. Both season one's were awesome minus a few episodes. Both have deep history to draw on. Both have innumerable connections between almost everyone. Both lost their way in the middle seasons (granted we have no way to know at this point how long the middle season for OUAT will go on). Both involve magic of some kind. Both love making everyone gray as possible instead of keeping characters black and white. Both tell stories in flashbacks in a somewhat disconnected style... ok now I think I'm just rambling.
Bottom line is I'd rather have Emma with Bael than Hook. I think the story would balance out better. Enough with the love triangles and such. If the show says so and so are 'true love' lock it. Don't mess with that dynamic. They need to get back to outside forces to cause the drama. The 'Queens of Darkness' largely failed as a plot device imo. Granted I loved Cruella's snarky lines and I liked her back story, but as far as the overall story went she and Ursula were kind of wasted. Maleficent had more juice, but they didn't use it that well. And more than anything I need consistency in the characters. Characters can change, but we need to see it in some way. Mysteries are fine. I like them. But if something isn't meant to be mysterious (like Will Scarlet showing up for no apparent reason) just give us an answer no matter how throwaway the line, have him say Jafar turned his wife into a toad and squished her, and he just needed to get out of Wonderland after that. Whatever. Again I'm rambling. Sorry. :ecomcity:
Actually I just remembered one theory I heard or read a while back was that Wonderland (the series) hasn't happened yet in this timeline, so Will is still in the place he was before he found Anastasia again. I don't know. I guess that could work in a way, but why not just give us a line to set that in place? I guess they could tie it in with Will taking his heart out (that was a plot in Wonderland but I can't remember when or how that happened) pre-Wonderland, you know cause he's sooo broken hearted over Belle and their 'romance'. ::)
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OUAT has 'promoted' Zelena and Robin Hood into the main cast.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/09/once-upon-time-sean-maguire-rebecca-mader-season-5
They're also saying that Will Scarlet has been 'demoted', though what that means when he only got a few minutes of worthless screentime when he was (apparently) in the main cast I don't know.
Overall it doesn't mean much. Since Zelena is pregnant they could hardly kill her off and I don't much care what happens to Robin Hood at this point. I actually enjoy Zelena as a villain. I just hope next season the writing is better and more consistent to the characters they developed over three seasons.
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Not really surprised about either of these. I look for Zelena to become the big bad since they've turned Regina into good. The question is how will she escape. Robin is the key. Did he ever remarry Marian (Zelena)? More after I get through this audit.
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Get ready for the most exciting OUAT news in the last year or so!!!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/once-upon-time-casting-rumples-150930276.html
Is Karen Gillan busy these days? Or even better Cathrine Tate! :dance:
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Have you seen the photos of Emma's new "Dark" look? they're hilariously horrible.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/02/once-upon-time-emma-dark-swan-photo
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Ugh-- can we say domanitrix. What is the new Savior is Gold. That would be a good twist.
Besides they forgot one thing in the mythology of old epic tales. If a good gives its life for another, evil is cancelled out.
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When I went to Dark Swan, I found this. Is this another possible love interest for Swan?
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/01/once-upon-time-king-arthur-liam-garrigan
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My my. How on Earth is anyone to believe ole Guinivere would leave him for Lancelot? -rollinglaugh-
And yes he does share a certain look with Hook. Dark Emma might be very confused indeed. I am somewhat excited about Camelot. I just hope they don't ruin it too much. With any luck Arthur, Mordred, or Morgan lee Fey will end up in the OUAT family tree. Rumples mother, uncle and nephew perhaps?
-loll
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Will 5B be Brave (Merida). FaceBook just announced that it was coming to Once. If Dark/Black Swan is 5A, then that has to be 5B.
And not sure how I feel about these?
http://www.amazon.com/Funko-Once-Upon-Time-Rumplestiltskin/dp/B010OW0VSO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_21_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1J81JPPRN2PN2V585ECC
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Well Merida certainly sounds like a strong candidate to be Rumple's mother don't you think?
As for the new plastic dolls... I think they're weird looking and wildly overpriced. Certainly not going to be rushing out to get one of those.
...however. Lana Parilla seems to like hers...
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/80240/Once-Upon-A-TimeThese-Are-Blood-Diamonds-Ill-Have-You-Know?page=224#.VaJlVvkwCSo
The picture is near the bottom of the page.
Why must people do that kissy face thing in photos?
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They're either a British import or the price is wrong. I'm going on to Amazon next week to see if anything new is added. I collect the micro titan Doctor Who (the ones I want). You buy them but you don't know what you got until you open them. The chances of duplicates are high. Do have the Battle Doctor though. The only one they don't seem to have issued is the Bad Wolf Rose from the 50th anniversary show.
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http://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Once-Upon-Time-Cast-Romance-Video-37907714
Cute little video interviewing the cast about Romance....
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Official Fan Vote for Once Upon a Time (results to be revealed in the pre-season five special)
http://abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time/news/storybook/fan-poll-best-once-upon-a-time-moments-07222015
Not exactly the best moments they could've picked, especially entirely leaving out my favorite episode Skin Deep, but what else could we expect?
I voted for Regina at the Charmings' wedding from the Pilot, Snow and Charming's True Love's kiss (also from the pilot), Emma breaking the curse (season one finale), Hook threatening pre-dark Rumple (season 2 - The Crocodile) and for Rumple... I picked the Beauty and the Beast Dance. I didn't want to pick the sad moment where he loses Bae and between the other two I picked the most recent hoping the writers might get a clue and do better in season five for Rumbelle.
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Those pop funk dolls you posted are on Amazon now for $9.99 each now. Also I found an awesome looking deck of playing cards.
http://smile.amazon.com/Once-Upon-Time-Playing-Cards/dp/B00TSWJ3F4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438364144&sr=8-1&keywords=Once+upon+a+time+cards
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I got busy and forgot to post that. Ordered a set already. I'll check the playing cards later.
My set was ordered this week.
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Let me know how you like your set. Not sure if I'll buy any of them, but I did find a few more that probably don't come in your set...
http://smile.amazon.com/Funko-POP-Disney-Peasant-Action/dp/B00K8UBW9K/ref=pd_sim_21_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EX5YPEJG83FAFE15A7
http://smile.amazon.com/Funko-POP-Disney-Action-Figure/dp/B00K8UBWDQ/ref=pd_bxgy_21_img_z
http://smile.amazon.com/Funko-Disney-Beast-Vinyl-Figure/dp/B0068EWM58/ref=pd_bxgy_21_img_y
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I almost bought Harry Potter today but walked away.
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More fun OUAT stuff coming in 2016 - action figures (dolls)!
https://mobile.twitter.com/iconheroes/status/630834481641844737
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The deleted scenes from the season four dvd have been leaked. I haven't watched them all yet, but they're all available here...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x317du9_s4-deleted-scene-the-babysitter_tv
Special features are really the only reason to buy season four. Ok maybe there were one or two good episodes, 'Sympathy for the De Vil' and 'Heart of Gold', but that's about it as far as I remember.
???
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More fun OUAT stuff coming in 2016 - action figures (dolls)!
https://mobile.twitter.com/iconheroes/status/630834481641844737
Now this is what I've been waiting for! Hope it is before ComicCon.
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OMG -- Lana just revealed the Disney Regina doll. Sending a links below. Limited editions!
http://wearecinemaniax.com/2015/07/23/countdown-to-d23-new-disney-collectibles-revealed/
http://www.themainstreetmouse.com/2015/07/23/disney-store-brings-%E2%80%AAonce-upon-a-time%E2%80%AC-doll-collection-%E2%80%AAstar-wars%E2%80%AC-collectibles-and-more-to-%E2%80%AAd23-expo%E2%80%AC-2015/
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That Regina doll is gorgeous! Can't wait to see the rest!
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Only 300 made (supposedly). Only Snow and Regina this year. They were all signed by Ginnifer and Lara.
None available on Amazon and I haven't checked Ebay yet. Got to get off tonight early. More later.
Gulp. I don't think so. Ebay price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Disney-D23-Exclusive-Limited-Edition-Once-Upon-A-Time-Dolls-SIGNED-NIB-/121732523109?hash=item1c57d2e465
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Yikes! Those dolls are very nice indeed, but I think I'll keep both my kidneys and all my limbs please.
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(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2014%20OUAT%202.12%20Darkness%20on%20the%20Edge%20of%20Town%20GIF%20set%20of%20four%20Rumple%20and%20Cruella%20bond%202_zpssdd5zo0s.gif) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2014%20OUAT%202.12%20Darkness%20on%20the%20Edge%20of%20Town%20GIF%20set%20of%20four%20Rumple%20and%20Cruella%20bond%202_zpssdd5zo0s.gif.html)
Just eight days till the (non-fanfiction) season five starts!
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Photos%20for%20Dearies/th_2013%20OUAT%20GIF%20Beauty%20Beast%20Rose_zpsd34vg1o8.gif) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2013%20OUAT%20GIF%20Beauty%20Beast%20Rose_zpsd34vg1o8.gif.html)
And it had better be better written than last season!!!! ...or else!!!
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Just saw the Hook doll and the Cora doll. Can I find them to purchase -- NO!
https://www.google.com/search?q=Barbie+Once+Upon+a+Time+Dolls&biw=1024&bih=687&tbm=isch&imgil=H_nVePVbsQ6P1M%253A%253BrPnC66cSIVDpUM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.pinterest.com%25252Fseeich116%25252Fonce-upon-a-time-dolls%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=H_nVePVbsQ6P1M%253A%252CrPnC66cSIVDpUM%252C_&dpr=1.25&usg=__-yoOSoNZVa9fkzRgEP5MMD6ZwnU%3D&ved=0CEAQyjdqFQoTCPjp9-zAjcgCFQxzPgodzzAISw&ei=7MkCVvjDIozm-QHP4aDYBA#imgrc=H_nVePVbsQ6P1M%3A&usg=__-yoOSoNZVa9fkzRgEP5MMD6ZwnU%3D
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There is a new Rumple necklace out. Can't find it on Amazon yet, but here is the link to hot topic.
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Girls/WhatsNew/Accessories/Once+Upon+A+Time+Rumplestiltskin+Dagger+amp+Rose+Cord+Necklace-10427928.jsp
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Try this site. I've seen it and it may have been on the ABC website. The show finally has a store. I now have the Swan pendant. Not the $145.00 one but a $20.00 one.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/160849492/emma-regina-belle-rumpelstiltskin-once?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=Once%20upon%20a%20time&ref=sr_gallery_4
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Once Christmas art/GIFS from the internet
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2013OUATart22RumbelleChristmas_zps558afd68.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2013OUATart22RumbelleChristmas_zps558afd68.jpg.html)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Photos%20for%20Dearies/OUATGIFRumbelleChristmas_zpsd8721f70.gif) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Photos%20for%20Dearies/OUATGIFRumbelleChristmas_zpsd8721f70.gif.html)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2013%20OUAT%20Fanart%20Rumbellechristmas_zpsbpm9va9f.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2013%20OUAT%20Fanart%20Rumbellechristmas_zpsbpm9va9f.jpg.html)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2013%20OUAT%20FanGIF%20Emma%20and%20Neal%20snow%201_zpsmrdbiynd.gif) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2013%20OUAT%20FanGIF%20Emma%20and%20Neal%20snow%201_zpsmrdbiynd.gif.html)
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LOVE THESE!
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Oh dear...
http://www.tvfanatic.com/slideshows/12-worst-shows-on-tv-in-2015/
Honestly I can't disagree. I even read a lot of the comments and I think I agreed with nearly everyone who posted. That never happens in Internet comment sections!
It's so frustrating.
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New Disney quiz...
http://www.tvfanatic.com/slideshows/12-worst-shows-on-tv-in-2015/
...40% Cinderella and 60% Belle interesting.
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Actually I thought Jennifer had some of the best scenes this year. Too bad they had to be with the Camelot mess. That's where the big trouble was -- Camelot. They changed the story too much. Arthur was a total jerk. He wasn't a good villain and couldn't be a good hero because that's now how it was written. Hook as bad was okay but they didn't play it up enough. Zelena needs to be the adversary for Emma and Regina.
Oh, did you hear! It's badk to Oz sometime during 5 B. They've gotten an adult "Dorothy" who goes to defeat the baddest witch ever (or something like that).
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Adult (as in older than we've seen so far) Dorothy? Watch she will end up being Zelena's daughter! -rollinglaugh-
Please note I plan on saying that about every female of unknown parentage we come across this year. -rollinglaugh-
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Who knows -- how about the next ten years.
And who the heck is watching the babies while we go off to Hades for the 100th episode.
:) :) :)
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Who knows -- how about the next ten years.
And who the heck is watching the babies while we go off to Hades for the 100th episode.
:) :) :)
I'm pretty sure they said 'the fairies' were babysitting (I assume BOTH 'Prince' Neal and unnamed motherless baby Hood), but I have no intention of watching that episode again unless/until I have to for the death count. At least they didn't dump them both on Belle this time.
:Woot_Emoticon:
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Found a fun GIF
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/GIFs/2013%20OUAT%20art%20Belle-as-a-mermaid-beauty-and-the-beast-38394730-500-281_zpsfe0hlphl.gif) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/GIFs/2013%20OUAT%20art%20Belle-as-a-mermaid-beauty-and-the-beast-38394730-500-281_zpsfe0hlphl.gif.html)
Belle as the little mermaid
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oh my heck., I just finished reading this and it was so darn funny...
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11664406/1/What-the-Hell-5B-Speculation-Parody
Warning the author warned against what he/she called 'mild swearing' and it was actually more f-bombs then I've read in one sitting since my ill conceived notion to read Trainspotting hit a few years back. But the story was so funny I read it anyway.
Clearly the writer is no fan of Hook or of what the writer's have done to Emma lately.
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Look LM Emma has a dagger now too. A letter opener.
http://www.amazon.com/Once-Upon-Dagger-Letter-Opener/dp/B017S70KIO/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1454032120&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=Once+upon+a+time+dagger
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I've been swamped for two weeks. I've watched 2 episodes for the season 2 death count and feel like I've let you down. Quick note to catch up on this.
Interesting on dagger.
I'll read article in a minute.
Also, guess what I have -- I have the Killian Jones doll now. Only one I'm missing of the Funko line is the San Diego Regina and I'm not paying what they're asking for it.
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ah LM you haven't let me down. I knew you must be busy. :sign0098:
As for funko I only bought Rumple and Belle and will probably end up buying the nerd Belle at some point. There're cute to be sure, but I don't want to start collecting the lot of them. You should see the barbies I still have jammed in my closets!
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I just got a fantastic book in the mail! It's called Narnia Chronology and it's a big book filled with pop up and sliders ect. that tell you the history of narnia in chronological order. It's so beautiful!
Here's a link to a copy from Amazon if you want to take a look...
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/0061240052?keywords=narnia%20chronology&qid=1454184699&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1
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ah LM you haven't let me down. I knew you must be busy. :sign0098:
As for funko I only bought Rumple and Belle and will probably end up buying the nerd Belle at some point. There're cute to be sure, but I don't want to start collecting the lot of them. You should see the barbies I still have jammed in my closets!
Let's don't talk Barbies or Dr. Who dolls. I'm cleaning the dolls up. I've only got the collectible Barbies, Doctor Who, Once, and personality dolls (John Wayne, Diane, Elizabeth Taylor, etc.) now.
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Have a look at the new promotional poster. I'm thinking of ordering one.
Notice Hook is still there. His picture was also publicizing season 5b of Once.
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XN0PAYU?redirect=true&ref_=pe_850220_165322580_em_1p_0_im
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That is a nice picture LM, even if Hook is in it (have I mentioned yet how much I hate that they are sending the whole cast to hell to save him?)
That same picture is also available as a lunch box...
http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0125KMXNO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2O2BJ3A9DMFW5&coliid=I2FL73BI7MUDLC
And a puzzle!
http://smile.amazon.com/Aquarius-Once-Upon-Puzzle-Piece/dp/B01617WUVW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454593780&sr=8-1&keywords=Once+upon+a+time+puzzle
Also found these cute buttons...
http://smile.amazon.com/Ata-Boy-Once-Upon-Assortment-Button/dp/B00GKUM9JO/ref=cm_wl_huc_item
http://smile.amazon.com/Ata-Boy-Once-Upon-Assortment-Button/dp/B00GKULK30/ref=pd_bxgy_21_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0CQ0NSWHQS25FSB3EFE5
Once is really spoiling us lately (with the swag if not with the writing).
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Check out the jewelry at this site. They have Rumple stuff. I'm eyeing the Dark Swan necklace myself but plan to check the ABC site before I order.
https://www.etsy.com/search/jewelry?q=once+upon+a+time&ref=esearch_group0
And promise to get back to the death count next week. Superbowl and work should be calmer then. The work part means I shouldn't fall asleep on the couch every night.
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In honor of Valentine's Day...
VALENTINE ONCE STUFF!
http://woodelf68.tumblr.com/post/139206016964/endangeredslug-bad-faery-nia-nita-the
http://retrogrlfan.tumblr.com/post/134031011642/more-pink-rumple
http://retrogrlfan.tumblr.com/post/121443194972
http://retrogrlfan.tumblr.com/post/133762453132/winter-is-coming
And my favorite...
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I tried to find some Emma Valentine stuff, but everything cute had that stupid pirate in it. Do you know of a good Emma art source?
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The pirate seems to be the thing for Emma. I want Neal back in the upcoming 100th episode but have seen no spoilers with his name.
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Guess who else is preggers on Once. Saw a picture of Ginnifer on the red carpet at some event and thought it was from her last pregnancy. Lo and behold, she's preggers again. That explains why the rush to get the 100th episode in the bag. Also, check out TVLine (or was it EW's) coverage of the 100th anniversary party. There's a new boy on the red carpet. Plus no Ginnifer.
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I read that Ginny and Josh had another boy now. I guess time flies.
I googled the 100th party and found a few red carpet photos. Below was my favorite.
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The wording was "will have" another boy on the photo of Ginnifer I saw.
Also, they're filming episode 20 now according to Twitter.
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Yes I misread that. But technically they do have two sons already. One of them just hasn't come out yet. :72:
I've been re-watching 5a and come across this exchange between Merlin and Emma:
Emma: Is it possible for someone to have the darkness, but use it for good, use it to protect people?
Merlin: Emma, don't let those thoughts tempt you.
Emma: But is it true?
Merlin: Someday perhaps there will be a person who's worthy to hold that much power and not let it burn through to darken their soul. But if we can wipe out the darkness, we'll never have to ask that much of anyone.
Is this a hint from the writers that Rumple might be that person who can contain the darkness? Or am I still grasping at straws to explain the ending of 5a?
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And think we got the hint last night that Rumple has good in him. Adam Horowitz pretty much hinted at it in an interview I read. He will be the first Dark One who is good.
WOW! Last night had me crying within j1.30 minutes of the show opening. That was some scene between Neal and Emma. I had searched but seen no mention of him coming. And there he was. It was bittersweet but great that they found a way to include him. Then I'm balling at the end when Cora is going to kill Henry I and Regina's heroism saves him. Her love of him kept the fire off him and he walked into the light after meeting his namesake. Again a special moment that only Once can do.
The show had continuity issues but they explained that away with this version of Purgatory being a fractured image of Storybrooke. Regina didn't know about it but apparently people who had died long ago ended up there. I'm anxious to see how they play it.
And I saw the casting bit for two new characters for the final episodes and next season. Not happy about them because one is named Jacob and any LOSTIE will tell you that Jacob was the power of good. Can't remember what the power of evil was but if I get a few minutes I'll look it up. Nathaniel is also being casted and they are brothers. Also the evil woman from Heroes will be playing some sort of mentor to Emma in flashbacks after foster but before Bailbondsman.
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My thoughts on the episode
#1 considering this was the landmark 100th episode I was a little disappointed that it focused so much on Regina and not on the show as a whole and as I've probably said too many times, I'm so tired of revisiting the bandit Snow era over and over and OVER again! ...however, this may actually be one of the better flashbacks to this time that they've done, if only because they answered the question of how Henry Sr. ended up in a tiny box in Wonderland. And Regina was in her best evil form as well.
#2 The opening with Baelfire wasn't as bad as I feared, but it still sucks that he didn't get to spend any time with his son or his father and what the heck does 'bagel' mean and why do nasty people refer to Baelfire as that on the internet? The same people like to call Rumple Goldemort, which I assume is a Harry Potter reference (never did read those books). The overall tone of the boards I was reading (imdb) has turned incredibly nasty for some reason. I never bothered to get an account and post there and now I know I made the right call.
#3 Gas is $15 a gallon in the underworld! That's hilarious. -rollinglaugh-
#4 Not enough Rumple. I was really hoping we'd get some kind of peek at what Rumple's real plan is (please tell me he has one!) with the new deeper darkness.
#5 the grandpa scene between the Henrys was sweet (got a tear in my eye), but why is there never any character development between Henry and Rumple? He didn't even try to A) stop Henry from coming to the underworld or B) to make him leave on Cora's boat. Rumple used to at least try to protect Henry. Why the change? It can't just be because he's 14ish now.
#5 I thought the guy playing Hades did a great job... right until his hair turned blue and then he just looked silly. Granted I haven't scene that particular Disney movie yet.
#6 is seems clear that the only way for someone to leave 'the underworld' and go back to the land of the living (as opposed to someplace better or worse) is to trade places with a living soul... umm so what's the plan with Hook again? Sure you can split Emma's heart, but she's gonna feel awfully silly taking half a heart on a date without a body around it. Maybe she can make a tiny hook to glue to the half-heart? Being the Dark One did show us that Emma has a crafty side. :D
And think we got the hint last night that Rumple has good in him. Adam Horowitz pretty much hinted at it in an interview I read. He will be the first Dark One who is good.
WOW! Last night had me crying within j1.30 minutes of the show opening. That was some scene between Neal and Emma. I had searched but seen no mention of him coming. And there he was. It was bittersweet but great that they found a way to include him. Then I'm balling at the end when Cora is going to kill Henry I and Regina's heroism saves him. Her love of him kept the fire off him and he walked into the light after meeting his namesake. Again a special moment that only Once can do.
The show had continuity issues but they explained that away with this version of Purgatory being a fractured image of Storybrooke. Regina didn't know about it but apparently people who had died long ago ended up there. I'm anxious to see how they play it.
And I saw the casting bit for two new characters for the final episodes and next season. Not happy about them because one is named Jacob and any LOSTIE will tell you that Jacob was the power of good. Can't remember what the power of evil was but if I get a few minutes I'll look it up. Nathaniel is also being casted and they are brothers. Also the evil woman from Heroes will be playing some sort of mentor to Emma in flashbacks after foster but before Bailbondsman.
I certainly hope that Rumple has good in him. This evil re-up of his is really upsetting to me if he did it just for the evil power. I need him to have a plan that makes everything ok somehow!
I don't think Cora or Regina had anything to do with the fire. Clearly Cora can call it up, but whether the person goes down into the fire (the worse place) or across to the light (the better place) is up to the soul itself, not to Cora. What Regina did was give Henry Sr. closure which made him ready to leave. So perhaps the fire can't actually take anyone to either place unless the soul is ready.
Still a bit confused about the underworld looking like Storybrooke because the curse what? came from Hades? If our Storybrooke was modeled on the underworld, then why does the underworld look like a smallish American/Canadian town from our world in the twentieth century?
I haven't read that casting tidbit, but I do remember clearly (I rewatched Lost season's 5 & 6 about a year ago) that Jacob's twin was never given a name on the show (for whatever reason). Everyone just seems to refer to him as 'the man in black'.
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My thoughts on the episode
#1 considering this was the landmark 100th episode I was a little disappointed that it focused so much on Regina and not on the show as a whole and as I've probably said too many times, I'm so tired of revisiting the bandit Snow era over and over and OVER again! ...however, this may actually be one of the better flashbacks to this time that they've done, if only because they answered the question of how Henry Sr. ended up in a tiny box in Wonderland. And Regina was in her best evil form as well.
#2 The opening with Baelfire wasn't as bad as I feared, but it still sucks that he didn't get to spend any time with his son or his father and what the heck does 'bagel' mean and why do nasty people refer to Baelfire as that on the internet? The same people like to call Rumple Goldemort, which I assume is a Harry Potter reference (never did read those books). The overall tone of the boards I was reading (imdb) has turned incredibly nasty for some reason. I never bothered to get an account and post there and now I know I made the right call.
#3 Gas is $15 a gallon in the underworld! That's hilarious. -rollinglaugh-
#4 Not enough Rumple. I was really hoping we'd get some kind of peek at what Rumple's real plan is (please tell me he has one!) with the new deeper darkness.
#5 the grandpa scene between the Henrys was sweet (got a tear in my eye), but why is there never any character development between Henry and Rumple? He didn't even try to A) stop Henry from coming to the underworld or B) to make him leave on Cora's boat. Rumple used to at least try to protect Henry. Why the change? It can't just be because he's 14ish now.
#5 I thought the guy playing Hades did a great job... right until his hair turned blue and then he just looked silly. Granted I haven't scene that particular Disney movie yet.
#6 is seems clear that the only way for someone to leave 'the underworld' and go back to the land of the living (as opposed to someplace better or worse) is to trade places with a living soul... umm so what's the plan with Hook again? Sure you can split Emma's heart, but she's gonna feel awfully silly taking half a heart on a date without a body around it. Maybe she can make a tiny hook to glue to the half-heart? Being the Dark One did show us that Emma has a crafty side. :D
And think we got the hint last night that Rumple has good in him. Adam Horowitz pretty much hinted at it in an interview I read. He will be the first Dark One who is good.
WOW! Last night had me crying within j1.30 minutes of the show opening. That was some scene between Neal and Emma. I had searched but seen no mention of him coming. And there he was. It was bittersweet but great that they found a way to include him. Then I'm balling at the end when Cora is going to kill Henry I and Regina's heroism saves him. Her love of him kept the fire off him and he walked into the light after meeting his namesake. Again a special moment that only Once can do.
The show had continuity issues but they explained that away with this version of Purgatory being a fractured image of Storybrooke. Regina didn't know about it but apparently people who had died long ago ended up there. I'm anxious to see how they play it.
And I saw the casting bit for two new characters for the final episodes and next season. Not happy about them because one is named Jacob and any LOSTIE will tell you that Jacob was the power of good. Can't remember what the power of evil was but if I get a few minutes I'll look it up. Nathaniel is also being casted and they are brothers. Also the evil woman from Heroes will be playing some sort of mentor to Emma in flashbacks after foster but before Bailbondsman.
I certainly hope that Rumple has good in him. This evil re-up of his is really upsetting to me if he did it just for the evil power. I need him to have a plan that makes everything ok somehow!
I don't think Cora or Regina had anything to do with the fire. Clearly Cora can call it up, but whether the person goes down into the fire (the worse place) or across to the light (the better place) is up to the soul itself, not to Cora. What Regina did was give Henry Sr. closure which made him ready to leave. So perhaps the fire can't actually take anyone to either place unless the soul is ready.
Still a bit confused about the underworld looking like Storybrooke because the curse what? came from Hades? If our Storybrooke was modeled on the underworld, then why does the underworld look like a smallish American/Canadian town from our world in the twentieth century?
I haven't read that casting tidbit, but I do remember clearly (I rewatched Lost season's 5 & 6 about a year ago) that Jacob's twin was never given a name on the show (for whatever reason). Everyone just seems to refer to him as 'the man in black'.
Outtie, the Prankster believes the term "bagel" derives from tennis where one gets "bageled" when on the short end of a 6-0 set. Therefore, the Prankster believes a "bagel" is a loser, a zero.
The Prankster returned to OUAT after skipping 5A. It was a fairly good episode overall. It was good to see Cora again.
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Thanks MP. I gathered from the context that bagel was a rude term. At least now I know where it came from.
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More later of course. I'm on lunch and snuck in here as I'm getting ready to readjust my hard drive and may not get on tonight.
1. Goldemort (whatever) could be referring him to Voldemort from Harry Potter which I don't agree with. Rumple/Gold has 'goodness' in his heart while the other was evil through and through. Gold protects Henry while Voldie would try to kill Harry any chance he got.
2. Regina is going to try and get the others to have closure and cross over which will destroy Hades's control over them and this version of Storybrooke.
3. I think there is a way to get Hook back. I'll say this for the producers. They're keeping whether he returns or not a secret. Remember, he did die a hero which means that he could find redemption and return to Storybrooke to prove himself.
4. I didn't think of Neal as a "loser". He got the short end of the stick and let's face it the actor is in demand.
5. I miss August. They need him back.
My big issue with this episode is that people were featured that we didn't need to see. Many are upset because Merlin didn't show up but I argue the point. I never accepted he actually "died." Plus, he would have gone to the better place I think. The reason I don't think he died is because legend has, like Arthur, that he will arise when England needs him most.
MP -- season 5A wasn't that bad actually. Try watching season 2 and see what I mean.
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I don't write for them any more but do read some of their stuff. What do you think of this?
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/once-upon-a-time/once-upon-a-time-could-peter-p-59161.aspx
I'm not sure Kay would return. He's always busy.
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Pan is definitely one of Once's best villains, but I thought his ending in 3a was very good (as was Rumple's) and I'd hate the cheapen that episode any further than the subsequent Rumple story line already have. If they do bring him back to life then I hope they have a really good way to use him.
As I've said, mostly what I'm hoping for in 5b is to have Rumple's plot lines explained a bit better, why did he go on an evil bender in season 4(though really who'd he kill? Sure he used Hook to suck up the Apprentice and some nuns and he was going to kill Hook if he hadn't been stopped... but this is HOOK we're talking about so I think his evilness is overstated, but of course I have yet to rewatch any of that), was it purely because his heart was blackening and he was trying to kill the darkness before his death released it? And if that's really what he was doing then why didn't they make that clear in the dialogue? What was with that frozen arc? Why did Rumple take back the darkness and is he doing it for good (PLEASE!!!!) What about those Camelot people? A little character clean-up would be nice. Not that I can about Arthur or Gwen really, but I do like plotlines to both make sense and have a point of some kind. Once has a very bad habit of dropping characters without explanation.
The good news about the underworld plot is that there is at least potential there that they might try and clean up a few plot points (as they just did with Henry Sr.).
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LindaM and Outtie----The Prankster has been reading your posts to this topic and he doffs his cap in respect for your perceptive and informative insights regarding OUAT. For a casual fan like MP, your posts enhance his understanding and enjoyment of the show. Thank you.
A couple of quick questions for you related to 5B: Can Pan change his appearance? What happened to Excalibur after Emma ran it through Hook? Does she still have it?
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Thanks MP. :57:
A couple of quick questions for you related to 5B: Can Pan change his appearance? What happened to Excalibur after Emma ran it through Hook? Does she still have it?
On Pan - my assumption is that Pan made a deal with Hades to be young again since that seems to be his thing, but really it's because Robbie Kay is the actor they really wanted back, not the older man who played Malcolm (Pan's real name). Also I just rewatched the underworld scene between Rumple and Pan and now I'm curious if we'll see what happened between them when they both arrived in 'the underworld' after they died together in the season 3a finale and perhaps the moment when Rumple was called out of the underworld would be cool to see in a future episode as well.
Excalibur disintegrated when Emma stabbed Hook and as far as we know it no longer exists. Rumple does however possess a nice shiny new dark one dagger that may or may not be the remains of Excalibur.
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MP -- supposedly the dagger changed because of Excalibur. I'm betting is Emma needs the sword, it will come back. She is the ONLY one now who can wield it. It won't answer to anyone else.
I do know they will deal with Camelot from a spoiler I saw. No idea how == Horowitz is playing things too close to the vest.
And they're filming the last shows now as Snow is becoming obvious pregnant. One of the new spoiler set of pictures has gravestones. They're for Emma, Regina, Robin, and Snow. Here's the thing. Other spoilers from the final episodes have shown Robin, Regina, Zelina, and his son in the woods. Emma crying and Charming hugging him. None show Snow. Here's the thing though. If Snow dies, so will Charming. So where was his tombstone??? Looks to have an interesting finale. And I'm not sure if this is the final finale or the two hour movie which I'm getting wind of.
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Interesting, Linda M. Was Zelena green? The Prankster had a thought about 5B (he doesn't have many so he has to write them down so he doesn't lose them)--assuming one or more of the SB heroes is "switched out" with someone in the Underworld, who will be the switcher and who will be the switchee? Any thoughts?
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Zelina was not green when she is shown in the forest with the crew. Word is that the actor playing Robin wants to leave the show.
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The Prankster would not be bothered if Robin suffered a tragic demise. That, plus Regina's and Zelena's likely ensuing battle over the baby might cause Regina to take a walk down memory lane, i.e., the dark side. The Prankster has always thought Hook and Robin were not equal to the task of being paramours for Emma and Regina. Too bad OUAT cannot find two younger versions of the late, great Alan Rickman. Admittedly a difficult task.
As far as switching goes, the Prankster had Pan for Henry in mind. It might provide a chance for Rumple to play the hero.
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Labor was a decent episode. It felt kind of old-school in the way it introduced a new character (Herc), played out the portion of his story that touched our 'heroes' story and then shipped him off to forgotten character island which in this instance we'll call Olympus. Young Snow continues to be a very good match for older Snow and thank goodness they finally did away with that 'Mary Margaret' label. I think I'll add that to my very limited gripes with season one.... should've stopped using Mary Margaret the minute Emma broke the (first) dark curse and as the magic rolls through town restoring memories, Snow and Charming see each other in the street... "Snow! ....Charming!!!! *smooch*" ...which is exactly what happened, but for some reason Charming and many of the townspeople kept calling her Mary Margaret now and again. It was always weird.
The other important scenes were (I think) the ones with Henry and Cruella and then Hook and Hades; Why oh why must Henry continue to be so gullible? He's not really going to help Cruella so that his mother (the less murdery one) will no longer be a murderer. Were people yelling murderer at Emma in the streets? If I wasn't so busy in season four complaining about Rumple's storyline getting trashed for no logical reason, I might've made more note of the whole Emma 'murdering' Cruella thing being stupid and inaccurate. She killed her. I grant you, but she was defending (who was it?) Henry? who Cruella kidnapped. Heaven help us if Henry starts trying to save everybody Regina murdered, we'd be stuck in the underworld forever!
The other scene to make note of was probably the one where Hades (who is great as a villain minus all blue hair shots) hands Hook what I assume is a chisel and three gravestones because Hook is going to have to choose people from our 'hero' party to replace the people they've saved (so far) out of the underworld. Well at least he can't put Rumple on all three. Or maybe he can; Rumplestiltskin - Mr. Gold - The Crocodile.
Speaking of Rumple -Dancekick- for next week on Once!!!!!
But also much worrying given the way things have gone for me Rumple-wise in the last two seasons.
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The Prankster would not be bothered if Robin suffered a tragic demise. That, plus Regina's and Zelena's likely ensuing battle over the baby might cause Regina to take a walk down memory lane, i.e., the dark side. The Prankster has always thought Hook and Robin were not equal to the task of being paramours for Emma and Regina. Too bad OUAT cannot find two younger versions of the late, great Alan Rickman. Admittedly a difficult task.
As far as switching goes, the Prankster had Pan for Henry in mind. It might provide a chance for Rumple to play the hero.
I just heard that too (about Robin probably leaving the show) and I agree that he (and Hook) never quite matched up with Regina and Emma and I of course hated that they killed off Maid Marian so that Regina could get a guy of her own (which she shouldn't have needed narrative wise to be happy) and the baby stuff with her sister.... yeah maybe this is for the best. What about Roland Hood and unnamed baby girl Hood? I assume they'll just let Regina have them, but somehow it still doesn't feel right to me.
You know maybe Hook would've been a better match for Regina. They were both villains trying to turn over a new leaf (when it suited them of course) and I could see conversations between them being very snarky/witty and enjoyable to watch and the biggest reason being they are not characters who already had a true love through literature (Robin and Marian) or through Once itself (Emma and Bae/Neal).
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So I missed the middle third of the show due to a thunder storm. I had to leave it when Herc arrived and Henry met Cruella and only got back in time to see Cruella issue her demands and Snow to become Snow. That makes the book so much easier now that I can do a intro that says: Since all Fairy Tale characters now go by their names (thanks season 5), I'll just correlate them to Storybrooke and use the FT. Anyway, let's say I've withheld judgement but haven't yet seen the middle half. Supposedly no severe weather is scheduled for tonight or tomorrow night and I may get caught up.
On another note, young Snow is great. Cruella is dumb. The tombstones may now have a halfway explanation. Now on to the next. I don't see any way that Snow (the show was originally conceived around her and execs say no show without Charmings), Emma and Henry (Charmings), Regina, Rumple can be lost. They're core characters and now seen as a family. Thus Hook and Hood are the two that can go bye-bye. No big loss with either. And if Snow, Emma go into the afterlife, they're immediately go on because very little they have to put right. Hades wasn't supposed to hold them forever. Wonder if the rumors of Zeus is true and he'll straighten Hades out?
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The Prankster is liking the Underworld story line so far. A few random observations:
Young Snow/Hercules--The Prankster likes young Snow as a kick arse Queen. Hopefully, contemporary Snow will regain some of young Snow's mojo.
Henry/Cruella--The Prankster agrees with Outtie. The scene was clumsy at best but the Quill story line introduces several intriguing possibilities: Is the Quill a quill in the Underworld? What is its' unfinished business? Does the Quill retain its magic or does it need to rejoin the living world to regain its magic? If the Quill retains/regains its magic will Henry wreak havoc on the Underworld? Is this the solution to the tombstones? What is Cruella's real game? The Prankster hopes to see more of Cruella's car. So cool!
Hades/SB heroes----One of the heroes asked Hades why the Underworld appeared as a "bizarro" version of SB. Hades evaded a direct answer but he hinted it was significant.
Rumple/Hades--These two must have some history so the Prankster hopes for a good backstory. Perhaps Hades will be a worthy adversary/rival for Rumple.
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Okay -- folks -- I bear bad news (maybe). The season finale will feature two brothers who have ties to a mental ward. One is the warden, evidently one is a patient. So which Storybrooke character is going to end up there for treatment.
Link:
http://tvline.com/2016/03/15/once-upon-a-time-season-5-sam-witwer-cast-mental-hospital-warden/
Originally, it called for two brothers -- one good, one bad. Now it's a mental ward warden and the patient he likes to torment. And the article even questions whether it is the Brothers Grimm!
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LM I like the idea of bringing in the Brothers Grimm in some capacity, but I'm not so sure about the mental ward angle.... guess I'll just keep on as I have been, hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
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Many spoiler pictures been put up and "the magical door" were in them. I'll post the link but I know Outtie doesn't like spoilers. The only two that do not appear in the pictures of filming are Rumple and Hood. Rumple somehow ends up in New York (don't ask me why) and was seen filming there very recently. And yes, Snow still has that coat on. They've got to hide her real life pregnancy somehow, don't they.
Also, on a side note. I joined twitter since my Once rumor gatherer there graduated. Yesterday Adam Horowitz and Jane Epperson both posted support for Sean Maguire (Robin). Seems twitter is alive with stories that he sexually assaulted one of the make up artists. Adam and Jane both swear he has done so. See the message from Adam (executive producer) below:
Hey #Oncers, some odd rumors out there about @sean_m_maguire --for the record he is a trusted member of the team and a lovely man. The best!
1,368 retweets 2,904 likes
Now, the fans are saying Lana is using this to get rid of Sean. The story goes that it happened before San Diego Comic Con. She protected the girl by taking story higher up. Sean took a picture of the girl and him to discredit her. Lana friended her and took it to Eddy and Adam who had to rewrite the whole season. The quote from the text she responded to said: "Lana took it as a chance to get dump OQ." Goes on to say, they couldn't do it during 5a but Lana negotiated to get the 100th episode to be her and no joint interviews as SDCC.
Last night, Lana took to twitter to deny. She said she had not heard any of this until last night. She said she did not do anything that is being said about her. Basically the twitter Here's her response.
I have no idea what this is but I'm just now seeing it. Whatever this is, none of it is true. Sorry and thank you.
Fandom can be bad. Many hate the Robber Queen and the Captain Swan. And on that note, I'll add that Captain Hook was seen on set filming the "door" scene.
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Many spoiler pictures been put up and "the magical door" were in them. I'll post the link but I know Outtie doesn't like spoilers.
Outtie no longer cares about spoilers for Once. I wish I did. As for this rumor stuff... I don't know if any of this can be relied upon unless it comes directly from Sean/Lana. I do know that both Sean and 'Bex' (Zelena) seem to be the most outgoing people in the Once cast and turn up at all the conventions, so it is sad to me that Zelena has been saddled with a lousy storyline and Robin Hood with a worse one. They probably should've had just Robin, Marion and the merry men living in the storybrooke woods and paired him up with Charming for a bromance instead of his romance with Regina. I still think Hook and Regina might've been a fun pair.
Why is Rumple in New York? Please tell me they didn't have Belle kick him out of town AGAIN. I'm so sick and tired and frustrated with that storyline.
BOO! to Hook being back. Logically I knew he was coming back, but I couldn't help nourishing a tiny spark of hope that he'd stay in the underworld for the good of the show. Spark extinguished.
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I don't think this interview has been posted here...
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/michael-socha/39154/michael-socha-interview-this-is-england-once-upon-a-time
Sounds like Will Scarlett hated his time on Once as much as I hated the crappy storyline they gave him. I really can't quote much from the interview because of the excessive profanity, but I did like this bit...
Once Upon A Time reunited you with Robert Carlyle didn’t it? You’d worked with him years ago on Summer.
He’s a good bloke. I saw him at the Comic-Con convention in San Diego when I was doing Wonderland and he came running up to me and gave me a big cuddle, and I was like ‘wicked, man’. He’s a wonderful, wonderful man, incredible actor. I spent a lot of time with Bobby. The whole cast were incredible, they all welcomed me, they’re all wonderful people. I just wasn’t working enough by the end.
Awww.
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Now the hint is in that Hood is staying due to the show's renewal. Like there was a question the show would be renewed. The only long term shows that I heard were in jeopardy were Grey's Anatomy (which I hear got renewed) and Castle (which is borderline due to stars' salary).
http://www.parentherald.com/articles/29646/20160318/once-upon-a-time-season-5-cast-spoilers-news-update-robin-hood-may-not-die-two-new-actors-will-join-the-show.htm
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I really don't know what to say about tonight's episode except - jaw dropped.
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I feel really happy right now. Whether that's from the episode being awesome or just overexcitment at seeing so much Rumple in an episode (in ALL Rumple phases no less). I loved the fill in backstory bits about Milah and the nod to 'The Miller's Daughter' as well.
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I actually posted the following on Jane Epperson's twitter last night and she responded:
My quote:
Only thing to say is Wow! This episode rocked!
Her response:
Thanks! One of my faves -- I love it any time we dip into the Rumple backstory.
Now you know why I got a twitter account. Step isn't here any more so I can't rely on her for juicy bits about the show from Twitter.
I think it was a great episode. I noticed the literary references to Dr. Faustus and some of the other "contract with the devil" books. I figured out why Emma can't share her heart. She's the savior and for some reason it won't allow that to happen. Now we know why the tombstones. And we should have seen that Milah would end up in the "lost souls" pool. Her aim was to make it right with Bae. He's moved on before she could do that so there was no way she could go into the light because she didn't make it right before he passed. Is that too theological thinking.
Anyway, you know Rumple will break the contract. The question is: how?
Too much to say but don't know how to put it into words.
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I just read a great theory on the pan pipes Rumples daddy gave him - could the pipe that was used to call lost boys, call up the lost souls from the lake of lost souls? Sounds plausible to me.
The worst theory I've read today was that Rumple dropped the crystal ball, not because he realized that Belle was pregnant, but he realized that Belle WAS his second child. Gee thanks for that image poster at once forums.
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Actually like the Pan theory. Wasn't he playing the pan flute when he was the Pied Piper? Remember, I drew Neil to him.
It's like they're turning the show on its heel. I'm hearing new theme music also. It's not like they thought the show would be cancelled. It's been listed as a "sure bet" all year. I'm beginning to wonder if they're planning to set their own deadline for leaving the air. Let's face it, they've succeeded where a lot of show don't. They made it to a 100 episodes.
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The Prankster agrees that the most recent episode was a bombshell and continues a string of winners for Season 5B. The following random thoughts/reactions/speculation:
Rumple went into the Underworld not knowing how to exit? MP has a hard time believing this. Hopefully OUAT writers will construct a good battle of wits between Rumple and Hades. Speculation: Did Rumple chisel the names on the tombstones?
The Prankster likes the reason LM gave for Regina's failed heart surgery on Emma but the abc/OUAT site suggests the tombstones are the reason. The Prankster is uncertain regarding the meaning of the tombstones. Emma, Snow and Regina must somehow be trapped in Underbrooke but if they died it must have happened when the Prankster went to the kitchen for coffee. Any thoughts?
Without knowing more the Prankster suspects the resurrected author storyline will be involved in freeing the heroes from the Underworld.
Did Rumple conceive little Rumple or Rumpless when he was not the Dark One? Does it matter? The prospect of a little dark one running around Storybrooke is pregnant with comedic possibilities but MP is biting his tongue......ouch!
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Hades decided that for every soul that crossed over, one of Hook's friends had to stay behind. Problem with this is what mythology you are using. If it is purgatory, they're supposed to be prayed or earn their way out. If it is Greek/Classical, it was sort of a dwelling place for mortals who die. Again Christianity, if Hades is really Satan, well, it's a pit of fire that sinner go to and can never leave.
Tombstones appeared so I figured that Hades did it. Emma is closet to Hook and Snow and Regina both helped people cross over. I'm betting Hood soon appears also. Since they're not dead, their tombstones seem to not come into play. I'm betting Henry finds the pen and it does.
I think Rumple had a plan until daddy dearest appeared and Emma reminded him that he had something to return to in Storybrooke. That's when things changed. Now Hades has possession of his second born. Rumple is either going to have an epic showdown or have to align with the heroes and tell them all...but how can he when Hades hears everything. Rumple can't afford for daddy dearest to return to Storybrooke and he will want that child
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This week's was another great episode. Learned so much and next week's is going to be another good one. Won't post anything because I'm sure you haven't seen it yet!
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Well I wasn't go to watch it until tonight, but I woke up with a sore throat and couldn't get back to sleep so I just watched it.
Looks like Hades will be pissed that what eight or so pirates souls just escaped his clutches and Henry is going to rewright Hades story rather that try to save Cruella YEAH! I'm glad to see somebody making good decisions on this show.
There was bad weather here so I missed part of the episode, so if you could fill me in on whatever happened between Liam stealing the pages and the brothers getting kidnapped in the woods, I'd appreciate it.
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Let's see, Liam was already being looked at to as a hero by Killian. Did you see how he saved they from the storm and were the only survivors. He traded it out with Hades who gave Liam the Heart of the Sea. I thought that was an interesting take on things.
Liam also didn't like his involvement with Emma. He got on her case because she didn't let Killian die the hero.
Hades made Liam steal the pages out of Hades' version of Once Upon a Time. He threw them down the well. It was Silver and company who told Hook the truth.
Meanwhile, the moms told Henry to stay where he would be safe. He didn't take kindly to that and as soon as they started searching the "magical" house that belonged to Merlin, he went hunting for the pen which he found.
Meanwhile Cruella had a thing for Charming's brother. Charming and Snow broke into the sheriff's office to get the key, Cruella arrived, and she tried to seduce Charming who wouldn't do it. She admitted she knew it wasn't James.
Hope that's it in some sort of order but I'm not use to giving highlights.
Ask me questions. Oh, if you don't know -- Henry found the quill and ink inside of a Harry Potterish style lamp.
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I don't think I have any more questions LM. Thank you for the recap. I assume the only deaths were the sailors that Liam? killed. If I feel better tomorrow I'll go back and count them if I can.
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Yep! Those were the only deaths I saw. Do we count them retro?
Liam is a sleaze ball.
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OUAT keeps knocking it out of the park during Season 5B. A few random thoughts (does MP have any other kind?):
Hades is the best villain at least since Pan, but MP agrees with Outtie that he should lose the blue flaming hair. The Prankster has liked Greg Germann ever since he played the senior law partner on Allie McBeal. As Hades, he strikes the perfect balance between high camp and drama. Zelena's paramour? Delicious. A match made in....Hell?
MP is glad the Sorcerer's Apprentice talked some sense into Henry. He hinted that the quill/author has the power to bring someone back from the Underworld, "...the rules here are more flexible." MP believes we still do not know what the quill's unfinished business is.
Cruella's scenes with Charming were great. MP just wishes we would see more of her car (so cool!). James and Charming are headed for a reckoning over Mommy Dearest's choice.
MP liked Hook in this episode. Perhaps there is hope.
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So agree about Hook.
Regarding the flaming head, according to someone that comes from a Disney movie. I'm not sure which one. I only watch the Princess movies with my goddaughters and have not seen it there.
Not sure where they're going. But here's something to ponder on. Yes, 5b has been very good. Probably one of the best arches they've done. Adam Horowitz just released a big tease from Sunday's show. It is a clip of Rumple spinning straw to make a portal for Hades to Storybrook. Seems he wants to go and bring back someone that's alive. There's also been a tweet leaked by him of a line by the Blue Fairy who is babysitting the children. If I'm guessing right, old Hades is going into the baby stealing business. I just put on Adam's page -- I hope this isn't going where I think it is. It isn't even May. I think they're planning to steal Charming's child and will get both babies.
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Not sure where they're going. But here's something to ponder on. Yes, 5b has been very good. Probably one of the best arches they've done. Adam Horowitz just released a big tease from Sunday's show. It is a clip of Rumple spinning straw to make a portal for Hades to Storybrook. Seems he wants to go and bring back someone that's alive. There's also been a tweet leaked by him of a line by the Blue Fairy who is babysitting the children. If I'm guessing right, old Hades is going into the baby stealing business. I just put on Adam's page -- I hope this isn't going where I think it is. It isn't even May. I think they're planning to steal Charming's child and will get both babies.
The Prankster likes the speculation. With Zelena returning for 5B, perhaps the verdant vixen will play upon Hades' affections to persuade him to kidnap her baby. And as long as he's already there.........
The Prankster just had another thought. Perhaps Hades kidnaps unnamed baby girl to bring Zelena to him.
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The Prankster just had another thought. Perhaps Hades kidnaps unnamed baby girl to bring Zelena to him.
I think you may have solved the riddle MP. That sounds like a nice 'evil' plan (though why bringing a baby to her mother is evil I don't know, but I'd bet the heroes will be against it) and now in honor of the original myth of Persephone I move that we call the baby Pomegranate Seed. Get it?
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I think you may have solved the riddle MP. That sounds like a nice 'evil' plan (though why bringing a baby to her mother is evil I don't know, but I'd bet the heroes will be against it) and now in honor of the original myth of Persephone I move that we call the baby Pomegranate Seed. Get it?
Well done, Outtie.
OMG! Go to Wikipedia and plug in "Persephone." You need not read past line one. Is it possible?
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Oh my heck MP... Line one of the wiki page quoted below!
In Greek mythology, Persephone (/pəˈsɛfəni/, per-seh-fə-nee; Greek: Περσεφόνη), also called Kore or Cora (/ˈkɔəriː/; "the maiden"),[n 1] is the daughter of Zeus and the harvest goddess Demeter, and is the queen of the underworld.
Dare I say the writers may actually have done a bit of research this season? I certainly didnt remember that name Cora being associated with Persephone.
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Someone (I forgot who) spoiled it last night and said the portal was to bring Belle, the baby and Zelena to Hades. He wants Zelena's child. Interesting. Checking wiki now.
Edited to add: Just read the line and yes very interesting. Is this going to be a case of "I am my own grandma?"
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Yikes! Hades is depopulating Storybrooke at a rate faster than Detroit. Soon he will have to build an Underworld version of Motel 6 to house all the visitors. Oops, the Prankster forgot. Motel 6 is already the Underworld version.
Belle is bound to discover that Rumple is Dark One 2.0. Fireworks at 6. There are so many actual and potential storylines the Prankster will need a notebook and a scorecard.
The Prankster discovered what the blockbuster ending to Season 5B will be. Many years ago, Cora and Hades conceived a baby boy. Faeries stole him at birth and whisked him off to parents in the real world. In an act of revenge, Cora placed a curse on the world of the living that would make her son grow up to be the bane of human existence. His identity………
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HAPPY APRIL FOOLS DAY! (better?)
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ack! Must you post such a large picture of that man, MP?
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PALATE CLEANSERS
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Awwwww so much better!
Thanks for not posting a giant picture of Hilary, MP. That's a plus. :sign0098:
LM I'm slightly happy to hear that Rumbelle will probably be back together soon (in Hades clutches, but still), mostly I'm worried about how much more damage they're going to heap on their already screwed up (by the writers) relationship.
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MP -- so funny. That's a good one.
Don't know how much damage will be done. I know he's involved in the final story (along with Henry, girl from Camelot, Emma and Regina). Something about the story that almost was (could have been). Here are the rest of the season's episodes titles
104 16 "Our Decay"[67] Steve Pearlman Tze Chun & Dana Horgan April 3, 2016 516 TBD
105 17 "Her Handsome Hero"[68] TBA Jerome Schwartz[69] April 10, 2016 517 TBD
106 18 "Ruby Slippers"[68] TBA Andrew Chambliss & Bill Wolkoff[70] April 17, 2016 518 TBD
107 19 "Sisters"[71] TBA David H. Goodman & Brigitte Hales TBA 519 TBD
108 20 "Firebird"[72] TBA Jane Espenson TBA 520 TBD
109 21 "Last Rites"[73] TBA Jerome Schwartz TBA 521 TBD
110 22 "Only You"[74] TBA David H. Goodman & Andrew Chambliss TBA 522 TBD
111 23 "An Untold Story"[75] TBA Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz
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I just had a thought... I was listening to a podcast speculate about Hades being the father of Zelena's child (instead of Robin Hood) and it got me thinking, what if Hades is actually Zelena's father? If nothing else it would make sense of the conundrum of why she's was so powerful at birth.
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Found a new relationship chart. Everybody is related.
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The Prankster has a few thoughts about the comments posted since his last visit:
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Awwwww so much better!
Thanks for not posting a giant picture of Hilary, MP. That's a plus. :sign0098:
LM I'm slightly happy to hear that Rumbelle will probably be back together soon (in Hades clutches, but still), mostly I'm worried about how much more damage they're going to heap on their already screwed up (by the writers) relationship.
LOL on the picture. Although in Donnie World size really matters, the original pic might have been a bit too Trumped-up………OW! Stop throwing things!
At the risk of being shushed by Outtie, the Prankster will venture his semi-informed opinion on the Rumbelle story line. The story line has devolved into a nine word summary: Rumple deceives Belle, Belle finds out, Belle shuns Rumple. Emilie de Ravin is an accomplished actor and deserves better than the shorter and shorter end of the writers’ stick. Either write Belle out of the show in some creative way or put some meat on the bones of Belle’s character and the Rumbelle story line. Perhaps Belle’s pregnancy is a harbinger of better things to come for her.
Don't know how much damage will be done. I know he's involved in the final story (along with Henry, girl from Camelot, Emma and Regina). Something about the story that almost was (could have been). Here are the rest of the season's episodes titles
104 16 "Our Decay"[67] Steve Pearlman Tze Chun & Dana Horgan April 3, 2016 516 TBD
105 17 "Her Handsome Hero"[68] TBA Jerome Schwartz[69] April 10, 2016 517 TBD
106 18 "Ruby Slippers"[68] TBA Andrew Chambliss & Bill Wolkoff[70] April 17, 2016 518 TBD
107 19 "Sisters"[71] TBA David H. Goodman & Brigitte Hales TBA 519 TBD
108 20 "Firebird"[72] TBA Jane Espenson TBA 520 TBD
109 21 "Last Rites"[73] TBA Jerome Schwartz TBA 521 TBD
110 22 "Only You"[74] TBA David H. Goodman & Andrew Chambliss TBA 522 TBD
111 23 "An Untold Story"[75] TBA Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz
The Prankster expects the remainder of Season 5B to be filled with blasts from OUAT’s past story arcs and related characters. Sort of an OUAT deceased All Stars.
I just had a thought... I was listening to a podcast speculate about Hades being the father of Zelena's child (instead of Robin Hood) and it got me thinking, what if Hades is actually Zelena's father? If nothing else it would make sense of the conundrum of why she's was so powerful at birth.
MP had the same fleeting thought while writing “Here’s Donnie†but he dismissed it because Hades’ reaction to Zelena during the last episode seemed to be that of a paramour as opposed to a parent. The Prankster supposes he could be wrong (highly unlikely) or is it possible Hades is unaware that Zelena is his daughter?
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Found a new relationship chart. Everybody is related.
http://woodelf68.tumblr.com/image/142156279809
Interesting but I didn't see Hook.
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Tonight's episode is so good. Hades lost the ability to love to Zeus and he wants to have feelings (paraphrased a lot but it's what I got from his conversation with Rumple). Rumple promised to help everything turn out right. Very good episode with 20 minutes left.
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Found a new relationship chart. Everybody is related.
http://woodelf68.tumblr.com/image/142156279809
Interesting but I didn't see Hook.
He's there. Right between Emma and Milah.
At the risk of being shushed by Outtie, the Prankster will venture his semi-informed opinion on the Rumbelle story line. The story line has devolved into a nine word summary: Rumple deceives Belle, Belle finds out, Belle shuns Rumple. Emilie de Ravin is an accomplished actor and deserves better than the shorter and shorter end of the writers’ stick. Either write Belle out of the show in some creative way or put some meat on the bones of Belle’s character and the Rumbelle story line. Perhaps Belle’s pregnancy is a harbinger of better things to come for her.
No need to shush I'm pretty much on board with all of that. The writers have been going in circles with Rumbelle and as I've said I don't think either character has been consistent since season four, especially Belle who's constant flipping back in and out of love with Rumple felt schizophrenic rather than conflicted emotions (or whatever the heck they were going for with that).
I just had a thought... I was listening to a podcast speculate about Hades being the father of Zelena's child (instead of Robin Hood) and it got me thinking, what if Hades is actually Zelena's father? If nothing else it would make sense of the conundrum of why she's was so powerful at birth.
MP had the same fleeting thought while writing “Here’s Donnie†but he dismissed it because Hades’ reaction to Zelena during the last episode seemed to be that of a paramour as opposed to a parent. The Prankster supposes he could be wrong (highly unlikely) or is it possible Hades is unaware that Zelena is his daughter?
Well he is a greek god and they were known for their bad behavior so maybe knowing she's his daughter is part of the allure? But ABC would never do a sick twisted thing like that would they? *sub in some cleverly snarky remark about Robin/Regina/Marion/Zelena or Hook/Neal/Emma/Milah*
I thought this episode (Our Decay) was pretty good despite the ridicules scarecrow. For some reason I really liked that wicked bicycle ride.
"It's like a broom with wheels!"
On Rumbelle
YOU GO RUMPLE!!! I like seeing him stand up for himself to Belle after the way the last couple of seasons have gone. I do agree that she fell in love with all of him and not just the coward behind the beast (as evidenced by her quick rejection of him once he actually reverted back to basic 5a). I'm not sure how I feel about him being (and wanting to be) the Dark One forever. I know that's what the writer's want for their writery purposes, but I always hoped that the series would end with Rumple destroying the darkness and living happily ever after with Belle. Despite his statement that he loves the power, I still kind of hope for that ending.
As for Belle in the episode... I don't really have a problem. She was nether particularly stupid nor unreasonable in any of her actions tonight. Though I continue to believe Zelena should have some rights to see, hold and feed her nameless (*cough* Pomegranate *cough*) daughter. I was a little disappointed that it still seems that Robin is the father. It would've been nice to have at least some of the eww taken out of that storyline.
The love story between Zelena and Hades was sort of cute if a trifle abrupt and one sided (Hades seemed so much more into this than Zelena; who in a very Rumple fashion declared that no one could ever love her). I liked Dorothy and it was nice to see the munchkins. The only glaring problem I see with the episode on my first watch is that CGI scarecrow. Why did they do it that way? Just pick an actor toss a burlap sack over his head and glue some straw to him and I would think the effect would be both better and cheaper.
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I guess we can assume that Zelena is Persphone. Boy Hades is one obsessed male. He not only created Storybrooke for Zelena but brought the heroes down so she could destroy them. And I loved the comment (paraphrased of course): I'm not the devil. I'm Hades, a god of Olympus. My brother put me down here and made me so I can't experience human emotions, yada yada yada." Loved this whole take on it.
Okay -- here's a few things I'm wondering about. The team is more than ready to return to real Storybrooke. Now we know there are headstones that Hades has created for Snow, Emma, and Regina. My question is this: Does it really affect the living or is it assumed and played upon by Hades. They aren't dead. His domain is the dead.
And there is a continuity error. If Snow is dead then Charming has to be dead. They share a heart and it was established back in season 3 if something happens to Snow and she dies so does Charming. Thus if she has a tombstone, so should he.
Lastly, I'm seeing Zelena beginning to understand family. Will she be incorporated into the Charming clan? (Of course she will!). Rumple has been and now Rumple wants them all out. We still haven't seen Zeus and I believe they have cast the character.
And one new rumor says that a special guest star appears on the season finale with a chance to continue next season.
Go
Down
For
Who!
It's M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E! According to something I saw last night, the network hopes that it helps the ratings and maybe allow for a spin off.
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IMHO this episode was the weakest of 5B but it was okay because the Prankster is a sucker for munchkins. Did Zelena really have to reduce one of them to chimney litter? The Lollypop Guild should go on strike.
Criticisms: Hades falling in love in two nanoseconds, the pathetic scarecrow (perhaps he was having a bad straw day) and Zelena’s nonstop speed-waffling over custody of Pomegranate (great name, Outtie). Overall, the two main storylines felt “rushed†and therefore strained credibility.
Best Scene: Rumbelle. Bravo Rumple! He finally “manned up†and put Belle to the decision instead of becoming the Dark Wimp. Now Belle has to decide whether she is willing to accept a life of influencing the Dark One to become a lighter shade of gray. She could do worse. At least the story line is not the same old, same old.
Hades: Take Hades for a bike ride and he’ll be eating out of your hand. Zelena must have been wowed by Hades’ gift of the slum-like version of Storybrooke. Hades is a bit of a putz when it comes to romance but most men are. The Prankster believes Hades has or will set his sights on the soon-to-be Baby Rumbelle for one of the ingredients needed for the TTP (time travel portal). Rumple knows Hades never had any intention of letting him out of the contract. Maybe Rumple will get the chance to play hero. Like LindaM, the Prankster likes Hades’ backstory and resulting motivation.
Henry: So Henry is sleep-writing OUAT? The OUAT writers might have used that technique to write this episode. The Prankster senses trouble a-brewin’ on this front. At the very least, Cruella should return to make mischief.
Tombstones: The Prankster believes the tombstones have somehow “trapped†Regina, Emma and Snow in the Underworld without killing them. Regina used the word “trapped†in describing the tombstones’ effect.
The Prankster needs the assistance of Outtie/LindaM: Can either of you help the Prankster’s faulty memory by providing the list of ingredients needed for the TTP? The TTP has to play a significant role in the going-forward story line. Thanks in advance.
Another question—The clock ticked towards the end of the episode, meaning that someone passed on from the Underworld. Any significance to this?
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MP The ingredients Zelena used for her time portal in 3b were an innocent baby (Prince Neal), a brain (spun out of gold representing Rumple brain), courage (Charming's broken sword) and a resilient heart (Regina's). And by the way the baby wasn't hurt at all by the spell. Whether that's just what the spell does or because they rescued him before the portal actually opened... Who can say.
So Hades has everything he needs conveniently already at hand in the underworld.
What do you suppose he wants to change? Zelena wanted to kill Snow's mom before she could interfere in Cora's engagement to Leopold (later to be Snow's father). Maybe Hades just wants to go back and redo that romantic bike ride through Oz with Zelena. :D
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Thanks Outtie. MP will try to return the favor by addressing your question. The Prankster is a bit fuzzy on this but he believes he has the "gist" of it.
Hades does not want to be God of the Underworld. He believes Zeus tricked him, apparently at the time when the three sons of Kronos divvied up the earth, the sea, and the underworld. So he wants to return to that time and take the place of Zeus. Whether he wants to kill Zeus is unclear to the Prankster.
Regarding the bike ride (LOL), the Prankster believes Hades would use the TTP to take Zelena back to the most recent Tour de France.
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Well, I'd be upset if I had ended up in daddy's stomach and little brother saved me! See below (and yes, Zeus has been cast).
Zeus is the child of Cronus and Rhea, the youngest of his siblings to be born, though sometimes reckoned the eldest as the others required disgorging from Cronus's stomach.
Plus we get the following:
He was respected as an allfather who was chief of the gods[9] and assigned the others to their roles:[10] "Even the gods who are not his natural children address him as Father, and all the gods rise in his presence."[11][12] He was equated with many foreign weather gods, permitting Pausanias to observe "That Zeus is king in heaven is a saying common to all men".[13] His symbols are the thunderbolt, eagle, bull, and oak.
Now, I never read where Zeus made Hades act the way he did. I have a Greek mythology that I haven't read and so I'm relying on Wiki. Here's the division:
After the battle with the Titans, Zeus shared the world with his elder brothers, Poseidon and Hades, by drawing lots: Zeus got the sky and air, Poseidon the waters, and Hades the world of the dead (the underworld). The ancient Earth, Gaia, could not be claimed; she was left to all three, each according to their capabilities, which explains why Poseidon was the "earth-shaker" (the god of earthquakes) and Hades claimed the humans that died (see also Penthus).
I love wiki -- here's what it says about Hades.
In Greek mythology, Hades was regarded as the oldest son of Cronus and Rhea, although the last son regurgitated by his father.[n 1] He and his brothers Zeus and Poseidon defeated their father's generation of gods, the Titans, and claimed rulership over the cosmos. . . . Zeus received the sky, Poseidon received the seas, and Hades received the underworld,[25] the unseen realm to which the souls of the dead go upon leaving the world as well as any and all things beneath the earth. Some myths suggest that Hades was dissatisfied with his turnout, but had no choice and moved to his new realm.[26] The Underworld was Hades' eternal domain, meaning he would spend the majority of his time there
Regardless, they left Peresphone out and didn't deal with another situation that could be tricky. I'm beginning to think Zeus sends the heroes back to their time and Hades follows. This could be interesting.
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Thanks LindaM. The Prankster's knowledge of Greek Mythology is about as robust as The Donald's knowledge of........anything other than Eastern European supermodels.
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So I guess Belle was the one responsible for the ogres attacking her kingdom in the first place? But come on we all saw her being to one to 'river' Gaston. is there a character in Once who has messed up more stuff than Belle?
Decent episode though. Enjoyed all Belle flashbacks and the current underworld stuff between her and Rumple was a mess, but typical of them.
Hades hates hope and flowers. Got it.
The rest of it with Emma's dream and all seemed very pointless. Was all that time really to set up Red appearing?
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I"m not sure what to make of Emma's dream. I figured foreshadowing. And the Zelena stuff with the flower was pointless. He could have showed his love another way -- like finding the baby.
Poor Belle. Now she's committed murder. I think Gaston was responsible for the ogre's attack. Also, they had no choice but to send him to the river. His "moving on" was really something inside himself which he wouldn't acknowledge or accept.
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The Prankster’s reaction to this episode was similar to Outtie’s---half good (Rumple, Belle, Gaston), half filler (Emma’s “I have a dreamâ€).
Hades’ scheme to rid the Underworld of fledgling hope was fairly clever. MP thought Belle’s return of the dagger to Rumple was significant. He applauds Belle’s throwing Gaston into the river. She acted to protect Rumple and Gaston was already dead anyway and was going to pass on only if he put Rumple into the river. Given the circumstances, the Prankster views Belle’s act as more akin to a venal sin than a violation of the Ten Commandments and a positive for Belle’s character development. It’s about time for her to hop down from her goody two-shoes, self-righteous pedestal and join the rest of humanity. (Belle never did turn the mirror upon the ogre, did she?). Rumple had the best shtick of the episode when he talked about whether a given action is good or evil often depends upon one’s perspective. This moral ambiguity/relativity lies at the heart of OUAT when it is at its best.
OUAT should have dealt with Red’s return in about five minutes and substituted a Zelena storyline. Zelena’s character development has reached a stage where a comparison and contrast with Belle might prove interesting.
Zelena’s appreciation of the dead flower was a bit of a head-scratcher. Maybe she even likes slum-like Storybrooke. MP does not understand women in the real world so his befuddlement over Zelena is easily explained.
Speaking of Red, MP needs the assistance of the OUAT experts. Did Red die in a previous season? If yes, how? If not, under what circumstances did she leave the show?
This brings the Prankster to his primary criticism of OUAT. 5B is starting to show the same cracks that have driven MP away in the past, the uneven quality of storytelling between and within episodes. At times OUAT is creative and inspired, at other times the writers put OUAT in the backseat of Thelma and Louise’s car. 5B has been so strong overall MP will stick with it and hope the quality returns to that of the earlier episodes.
The Prankster has a somewhat educated guess regarding the premise of 6A but he could be completely wrong: What would the world of OUAT be like if Regina had never placed the curse that resulted in the Storybrooke of Season One? Would Storybrooke even exist?
Note to LindaM—the Prankster noticed Rumple handling Pan’s pipes while he appeared to be musing over something. Your earlier comment might be on the mark.
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The Prankster’s reaction to this episode was similar to Outtie’s---half good (Rumple, Belle, Gaston), half filler (Emma’s “I have a dreamâ€).
It wasn't the strongest episode of 5b but a lot better than 2b which puts me to sleep.
Hades’ scheme to rid the Underworld of fledgling hope was fairly clever. MP thought Belle’s return of the dagger to Rumple was significant. He applauds Belle’s throwing Gaston into the river. She acted to protect Rumple and Gaston was already dead anyway and was going to pass on only if he put Rumple into the river.
I don't think she gave Rumple the dagger. I think she's still in control. My issue with this was how did she find the blooming thing in the firs place. And you never made a deal with the devil (or in this case Hades). He never keeps it!
Given the circumstances, the Prankster views Belle’s act as more akin to a venal sin than a violation of the Ten Commandments and a positive for Belle’s character development. It’s about time for her to hop down from her goody two-shoes, self-righteous pedestal and join the rest of humanity.
Yeah, I know 10 Commandments but I also was brought up on the Christian principle of Free Will. She acted with Free Will to protect another so yes, she's changing but I never really saw her a goody-two-shoes either. She just wanted Rumple to do what was right. She doesn't understand his right may be wrong at times and let's be honest, he's no where as evil as the other Dark Ones.
OUAT should have dealt with Red’s return in about five minutes and substituted a Zelena storyline. Zelena’s character development has reached a stage where a comparison and contrast with Belle might prove interesting.
I see this as Red returning to the family. They had paired her up with Mulan but I think they're bringing her back on to OUAT next year. I think her show got cancelled. Red isn't a bad character but she's been MIA so long that we don't connect with her. Zelena on the other hand is going to come into play. Didn't you catch that she traps Dorothy in the necklace so it's a combined story with more character development. Regarding Zelena, I'm beginning to think she's going to play a major role in the return to Storybrooke and she'll have to make a decision of being bad or being good. We need her to remain the villian.
The Prankster has a somewhat educated guess regarding the premise of 6A but he could be completely wrong: What would the world of OUAT be like if Regina had never placed the curse that resulted in the Storybrooke of Season One? Would Storybrooke even exist?
They want us to assume that they had no inkling that the show would be renewed. I think they did. They're not releasing anything. The premise (or what I assume) is that Henry and his Arthurian love travel to New York's SoHo district. Gold is there, Regina and Emma show up. They can't do a "no Storybrooke" because you wouldn't have the tie with Regina, Henry, and Emma. I think they're going to do something with the Author development.
Note to LindaM—the Prankster noticed Rumple handling Pan’s pipes while he appeared to be musing over something. Your earlier comment might be on the mark.
And I actually have a Peruvian version of Pan's pipes in my office. A professor gave them to me.
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Thank you Linda M. The Prankster always appreciates your well-informed, thoughtful comments. Outtie’s also.
As a preliminary matter you probably should be aware of something. MP’s pool of ignorance regarding OUAT is far larger than his pool of knowledge. He has seen most of Season One (still the best of what he has seen), brief snatches of Seasons 2, 3 and 4a, most of 4b, none of 5a and all of 5b. For example, he never laid eyes on Dorothy in OUAT until the “Our Decay†episode. He relies on you and Outtie to fill him in when necessary.
Now, in reaction to some of your comments:
Belle---In his often roundabout, convoluted way, MP was simply offering his opinion that Belle did not murder Gaston. The Prankster has reflected on the remainder of your comment and he believes he has been too hard on Belle. You are right, she is not a “goody two-shoes.†MP actually began to like Belle for the first time during this episode. It appears as if she is moving toward acceptance of Rumple as the Dark One, although there are certain to be many more bumps and potholes in the road ahead. Are you certain that Belle did not return the dagger to Rumple? MP could have sworn she did. Perhaps MP had a senior moment. Here’s a thought regarding how Belle knew of the dagger’s location. In the previous episode Belle saw Rumple take the dagger from his inner coat pocket. She might have assumed it was still there.
Zelena---MP would like Zelena to have an expanded role on OUAT going forward and agrees that she should remain a villain. At present there are too many “goody two-shoes†(sorry, MP couldn’t resist) women running around Storybrooke playing hero. Rumple is good but Storybrooke needs a resident female villain for balance. Cora is by far the best villain but Zelena is an acceptable substitute. If Dorothy was trapped in a necklace it must have happened during an episode the Prankster never saw (pool of ignorance).
Red---Prankster read a summary of the next episode and now realizes Red is still alive. Apparently Mulan returns for the coming episode (the Prankster also missed her story arc).
Hades---MP really likes this guy. He hopes Hades will have a recurring role on the series but first Hades needs to get his ticker jump-started. Will Zelena supply the juice? If the Underworld gig doesn’t work out Hades can pursue a career as a contracts attorney.
Season 6---It sounds as if MP didn’t just miss the bullseye, he missed the entire dartboard.
Pan’s Pipes----That is very cool, LindaM.
Regarding the writing on OUAT, the Prankster would like the opinions of you and Outtie: Who are the best writers of the series
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MP, Dorothy appeared in 3.20 Kansas (with a slightly younger actress). She appeared, usurped Zelena's seat at the witches table (trust me you missed NOTHING there MP) and then she 'melted' Zelena, who only pretended to die. Then Zelena in the guise of the wizard gave Dorothy the magic slippers to return to Kansas (which the writers have said is 'fictional' Kansas, not Kansas in our world; Ok then) and that was the last we saw of Dorothy, until now.
I'm also pretty sure that Belle either returned the dagger or let Rumple take it from her hand.
IMO the two times Belle has taken the dagger to control Rumple have been the dumbest Belle moments in OUAT. Goody-two-shoes may sound a bit harsh, but I don't think MP was far off to call her that. It's definitely one of Belle's settings. It's great that she believes that good will always win and always wants to see the good in everybody, but once and awhile she needs to step back and accept that not everybody can be goodified overnight. Rumple and Gaston being two prime examples in this episode. She nearly got Rumple killed in 5.17 and she might well have gotten a lot of people killed in her land because she let the young ogre go home to report to it's people about what Gaston did to it.
I too enjoy Zelena as a villain, but I feel quite sure they are positioning her for redemption through babylove. I know I've said it too many times already, but I truly think that baby storyline was a serious mistake for all characters involved.
The last we saw of Red she and Mulan were paling around in Dunbroch (Merida's homeland). She left Storybrooke using a magic bean (why she was allowed to waste such a valuable bean instead of trying to grow more from it I don't know) and has been in Dunbroch/enchanted forest for I don't know... a year? I assume she's not dead since she came into underbrooke via a storm? instead of via death barge. But who can say.
Those Pan Pipes MUST be played at some point and I think it will bring forth the souls trapped in the river.
I believe Jane Espenson is generally considered the best writer. At the very least she's the only writer who gets mentioned by name a lot on podcasts and she certainly has written many of the best Once episodes...
That Still Small Voice
Desperate Souls
Skin Deep
Red-Handed
The Return
The Miller's Daughter
And from this season 'Devil's Due'. All very good episodes. Of course she's actually credited with a lot more episodes than these and not all of them are exactly winners.
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Thanks Outtie. The info. on Dorothy and Red was very helpful.
As the Prankster’s previous comments indicate, he waffles over his opinion of Belle. He must be having a Zelena moment. MP has decided to bite his tongue (it’s a small wonder he has any tongue left) on Belle and Rumbelle until he sees more on how the relationship plays out.
Baby Pomegranate is problematic for Zelena remaining a villain. It can be sustained for a while by a tug-of-war between Zelena/Regina over custody. If Zelena becomes “goodified†(nice word Outtie) Rumple will have to issue a call for reinforcements.
From the “you probably already know this†department: Neal/Baelfire is co-starring in the new NBC series “Game of Silence.†He plays a man deeply scarred by a teenage experience who has a propensity for violence and a desire for revenge.
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Most of the writers/executives on this show have experience with LOST. I wasn't ready to commit to another show by these guys but actually got a 15 minute preview from, of all people, Evel Dick. He and I have constantly had discussion wars and he knew I didn't think highly of some of his tactics but he contact me via FaceBook and told me to check the preview out. He knew someone on the show.
Regarding Jane Eppeson. She is a strong writer but I still hold Torchwood Miracle Day against her. While I know Russell Davis and John Barrowman probably had a lot to do with the storyline (and the parts that really annoyed me), she didn't have to kill off the CIA agent that died. Enough said. Don't get me started.
Belle is going to be the enigma of this show --- always wanting good but having to face bad. While Emma is the savior, Belle doesn't have a defined role and that makes it hard. She may not have the dagger. I really don't remember but somehow she always gets it when she needs it.
Regarding the "River of Souls," I'm not sure what is going to happen there. These are people who apparently can't get their act together and rectify the past. Both of the peeps who have gone in have wishes that couldn't be fulfilled. There was no hope except to stay in Otherworld Storybrooke.
Regarding Hades. I'm wondering if he comes through and dies. Of course, I know they supposedly cast Zeus. And how is the mental institute going to come into play?
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Horowitz and Kitsis are about as "Lost" as it gets. MP looked at some of the writers' backgrounds. Some have a pedigree with Joss Whedon's stable of shows, e.g., Buffy, Dollhouse. It is difficult to churn out 20 plus quality one hour episodes a year, especially in the OUAT genre. They don't seem to make 'em like Rod Serling anymore. <sigh> MP hopes 5B will regain its storytelling quality starting this week.
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MP has absolutely nothing to say about this episode (18) but he believes he has identified the three essential requirements of any OUAT episode: It involves a Disney property; there has to be some connection, no matter how tenuous or inexplicable, to the existing OUAT story arc; the writer must ingest hallucinogens as part of the pre-writing ritual.
With the aforementioned requirements in mind, MP now will attempt to come up with some story ideas for the next episode of OUAT. MP already has satisfied the third requirement (his personal favorite). Absolute silence, please, while MP thinks.
Thinking………..thinking strange thoughts……………hallucinating……….EUREKA! The Prankster has some boffo story ideas for the next episode that will reinvigorate the OUAT franchise and open a new universe of possibilities for future story lines.
Episode Title: Where, O Where has My Wookie Gone?
Episode Plot: Han, Chewy, Luke and Yoda travel to the wookiee homeworld to investigate the mysterious disappearance of the wookiees. A portal suddenly appears and the quartet is whisked off to the Underworld of many years ago or many years in the future or many years in the present or all three (reader’s choice). Once there, complications ensue for our friends. Jabba the Hutt, who actually survived Princess Leia’s attack but later met his demise during an intergalactic chili dog eating contest (insert flashback sequence here <Jabba learns of his chili bean allergy only after he “Jabbas down" 403 chili dogs in 45 seconds to break the intergalactic record>), shows up with some unfinished business involving Han and Jabba’s colon. Darth Vader shows up and persuades Luke to help him find his helmet so DV once again can enjoy his cool James Earl Jones voice and ventilator-like breathing. Plus, Underworld women think it makes him sexy. It turns out Hades stole the helmet just to have some devilish fun. He threatens to toss it into the River of Lost Headgear unless JJ Abrams agrees to cast him in the next Star Wars movie. The Dark Emperor shows up and gives Yoda incurable laryngitis simply because he never could stand Yoda’s voice. DE then passes on. To make matters worse, everyone in the Underworld is grouchy due to lack of sleep because Chewy is making incessant Chewy sounds. As if that weren’t enough, Zelena, in an act of revenge for once having had her Maybegreene makeup purloined and used for a nefarious purpose by a munchkin impersonating a wookie impersonating a munchkin impersonating Dorothy (insert second flashback sequence here <MWM uses makeup, guacamole dip and a box of 64 Crayolas to draw anti-Zelena graffiti on the yellow brick road>), has imprisoned all of the munchkins in a giant green Tootsie Roll Pop, repopulated Munchkinland with wookiees, renamed it Wookieeworld and moved it to a theme park near Orlando. What to do, what to do?
Please stay tuned for scenes from next week’s episode, “The Munchkins Lick Back.â€
Mercifully for the reader, MP just ran out of hallucinogens. Goodnight.
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So funny! Knowing the title deals with siblings, you needed to include Leia.
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Knowing the title deals with siblings, you needed to include Leia.
Good point. The Prankster will have to cogitate upon it. At the moment he is late for an interview with a magic comb (it auditioned for OUAT but never made the cut) involved in a brewing political scandal. The comb claims to have spent the night with Bernie Sanders' hair when he was a young man. It further alleges the experience ruined Bernie's hair for all other combs. The story sounds highly suspicious but the comb claims to have photos. Maybe the story has some teeth.
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Once hair bows!
http://boushh2187.tumblr.com/image/142768817669
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And the actions figures are closer to production. Saw it on Twitter. The company is Icon Heroes. Here's a link to the company page. Only thing up so far is the dagger. What Horowitz posted showed Emma's red jacket, Regina with her magical charm, Hook, and I forgot who else. Not all the doll but part.
http://www.iconheroes.com/collections/once-upon-a-time-1
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Once Podcast is nominated for a podcast award! Looks like it was the only one to make the cut. If you guys would be so kind, please vote for them in the TV & Film category at the bottom of the page.
http://www.podcastawards.com/
And don't forget to verify your vote!
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I just couldn't resist all the lovely Rumbelle merchandise at Hot Topic.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Art/th_2016%20May%2012th%20new%20Rumbelle%20stuff%20from%20Hot%20Topic%20close%20up_zpsdjohgv7p.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Art/2016%20May%2012th%20new%20Rumbelle%20stuff%20from%20Hot%20Topic%20close%20up_zpsdjohgv7p.jpg.html)
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Just heard Funko is putting out a Belle doll this year. No picture yet.
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Just heard Funko is putting out a Belle doll this year. No picture yet.
I have the regular non-OUAT Belle Funko already, but of course if they put out a OUAT version I'll have to buy it. Maybe then I'll buy the non-OUAT Beast to pair up with his Belle.
Another cool new OUAT toy...
https://www.etsy.com/listing/278769000/customizable-dark-ones-dagger-once-upon?ref=market
That's right for just 25 bucks YOU too can be a Dark One! :great:
Unfortunately it's not a real knife, just plastic or enamel or something. Sadness.
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Our beloved Rumple was in a movie on Encore last night. A mini-series called Flood set in London. Hard to recognize him. He was the hero.
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Our beloved Rumple was in a movie on Encore last night. A mini-series called Flood set in London. Hard to recognize him. He was the hero.
I have the dvd. :) It's nice to see him play a hero; it's a real rarity.
RC is filming a sequel to Trainspotting now.
I um, ...hated Trainspotting
:o :-\ :o
...a pictorial representation of my face watching that movie...so not sure how I feel about a sequel being made, but I'll probably try to watch it at some point. At least RC's bits. :embarrassed:
My favorite RC movies are Marilyn Hotchkiss' Ballroom Dancing and Charm School (bad title;sweet movie) and Ravenous (funny black comedy in a western setting). To End All Wars may be his best movie, but it's a hard one to watch.
In somewhat related news I read that Ewan McGregor will play Lumiere in the new Beauty and the Beast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1T7kRA_nCg
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Let me know what you think of this banner (hope you can see it).
https://www.facebook.com/OnceUponASpoiler/photos/a.528102107223989.121754.528035687230631/1216309645069895/?type=3&theater
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Let me know what you think of this banner (hope you can see it).
https://www.facebook.com/OnceUponASpoiler/photos/a.528102107223989.121754.528035687230631/1216309645069895/?type=3&theater
The banner looks good to me LM. Not that I'm a Facebook expert or anything.
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I haven't scene Hamilton, but watching this video I did think the lyrics really fit well for Rumbelle too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sr3G8h3bj-Q
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Wish I had designed the banner but I didn't. Like this video. I haven't seen Hamilton but been listening to some of the music.
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Season 6 Promo poster
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/07/once-upon-time-season-6-poster?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter
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And you -- YES YOU -- can own your own designer dress from Once Upon a Time!
https://www.etsy.com/search/clothing?q=once+upon+a+time&order=most_relevant&view_type=gallery&ship_to=US&ref=esearch_group5
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This list is two years old now, but I found it entertaining.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/keelyflaherty/once-upon-a-time-theories-that-might-actually-be-true?utm_term=.ocQjOlqGjk#.vdA5M7zy5E
Personally I think 1 & 13 are true.
9, 19 & 20 are highly interesting.
12... I wish. I wish this so hard.
And both 14 & 21 have already happened.
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I agree but a few will never happen (like Emma and Bael being next Snow and Charming). He's definitely gone.
Regarding Emma being Elizabeth Swan -- ain't going to happen and I doubt that Hook could ever be Jack Sparrow. Plus we've seen his father as a con man.
I'd add 15 to the definite.
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Are you old enough to remember MASH (the girly game not the tv show) LM?
Because now there is a once version.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/basicdisney/this-game-of-mash-will-determine-your-ouat-life-1ap2x?utm_term=.cvnpqMxBpb#.cdeN7YybNG
I got Robin Hood, enchanted forest, five kids, teacher and Emma's bug for a car.
Now I'm going to go and play it however many times it takes to get Rumple. :57:
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Oh gosh yes! I remember this game. I got Rumple on first shot (try 6) and Land of Untold Stories, 3 kids, Emma's bug, and be a Bail Bond Agent.
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Oh gosh yes! I remember this game. I got Rumple on first shot (try 6) and Land of Untold Stories, 3 kids, Emma's bug, and be a Bail Bond Agent.
Six was the absolute last number I tried. -loll
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And straight from Comic Con, the preview -- or commercial. See below. Mid-way down the page. I don't go to Buddy TV but found this so here it is.
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/once-upon-a-time/once-upon-a-time-cast-talks-ev-60692.aspx?utm_source=newsletter7-25-16&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email_newsletter
And a preview of Aladdin. Savior in that story also and you won't believe who.
And remember what I said about Robin . . . be sure and see this quote:
It was hinted that everything Hades said about the Olympian Crystal in the season finale might not have been 100% true. This includes Robin's death.
It was hinted that everything Hades said about the Olympian Crystal in the season finale might not have been 100% true. This includes Robin's death.
It was mentioned that Zeus' resurrection of Hook was "one time thing" and won't happen again.
Emile De Ravin admitted that her character Belle is attracted to the darkness in Rumple.
Yvette Nicole Brown demanded a musical episode about Christmastime for OUAT season 6.
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I'll definitely co-sign the musical episode idea! If Xena can do it...why not ONCE?
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It was hinted last year. The question is: Can the whole cast sing.
I ended up writing an article about it and posting it with the clips on my secret writing blog.
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It was hinted last year. The question is: Can the whole cast sing.
I ended up writing an article about it and posting it with the clips on my secret writing blog.
There is a 'lost' episode of Hamish Macbeth called 'West Coast Story' that was not included in the DVDs and has never been officially released because it uses music from West Side Story. I've seen it online and RC only sings a few lines from The Jet Song and Cool and while I can't say he's exactly Josh Groban, he is a very good actor and I'm sure they could write a song that he could sing.
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http://besttvcharacters.com/the-best-once-upon-a-time-characters/
Found a small popularity poll
Rumple leading with 1023 votes
Hook (really?) second with 833 votes
Regina third with 687 votes
Emma fourth with (only) 111 votes?!
I'm thrilled Rumple is #1 and all, but Emma fourth? Hook second? Come on...
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I don't know who Giles Matthey is or will be in OUAT6.0, but I like the picture he posted.
https://twitter.com/gilesmatthey/status/755176515688468480
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He's playing Morpheus. My twitter come sin good for something. Only with 4 followers though.
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Is the following offering hope for our Rumple. Article below it.
Will we see the return of hero Rumple?
KITSIS: Boy, I don’t know.
HOROWITZ: I think we’re going to see hopefully a growth in Rumple that involves him coming to a new place, which we started to see at the end of last season. Whether heroism is involved in that probably is in the eye of the beholder.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/01/once-upon-time-season-6-spoilers-hot-seat#.V5-DwdjDGgo.facebook
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Think you will love this if you haven't seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARKpnJF8AW0
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Mention of Belle's mom, Collete. I see how they're going to bring in musical theater -- Collette came off Les Miz where everyone sings.
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I do love it! But i think he missed at least one hugely important tangle...where was the mention of the Hook/Milah/Emma mess? Come on man, that was a big miss there. He could've easily left off Frozen and Camelot to fit in a few extra lines about that!
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No Rumple this year but a Belle.. And no Dark Swan Emma but a Hook.
http://funko.com/blogs/news/coming-soon-new-once-upon-a-time-pops
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No Rumple this year but a Belle.. And no Dark Swan Emma but a Hook.
http://funko.com/blogs/news/coming-soon-new-once-upon-a-time-pops
Well I'll be glad to have Belle anyway, though I don't know why we need so many Reginas since they basically look the same. At least stupid Hook gets Excalibur for a new look.
Currently I only own Rumple, Peasant Belle, Mrs. Potts & Chip, and Data... discovering that there are Doctor Who and Star Trek Funkos could get me to add a few extra to the collection. Especially Spock. I want a Spock. :victory:
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Outtie and LindaM: MP has given up on OUAT. Season 5B started with a bang and ended with a whimper. The finale, except for a couple of bright spots, was pretty much a mess. Overall, MP just cannot get the OUAT feeling back. So he leaves OUAT in your capable hands. MP will be reading your OUAT posts.
You guys are loyal fans and deserve better than the subpar content delivered by several recent story arcs. Hopefully you will be rewarded with a quality story arc in season 6A. MP hopes the two of you enjoyed the summer!
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You guys are loyal fans and deserve better than the subpar content delivered by several recent story arcs. Hopefully you will be rewarded with a quality story arc in season 6A.
I agree wholeheartedly MP.
And from your lips to God's ears (as the saying goes - obviously I do not consider the OUAT writers to be gods. Not even demis).
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Oh, Outie. I have Doctor Who Funko's. I have the following:
River Song
Eccleston's Doctor with Banana
Jack Harkness
10th Doctor
Rose Tyler
Battle Doctor
MP -- I'm not giving up because of the untold story angle. As an English major, I'm interested in seeing what stories they say were untold. I honestly think the show's going to end either with this season or next.
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Tangentially I've been listening to a podcast called LOST LIVES and they've made two different audiobook sort of openings for LOST 2 - the sequel to LOST and I loved them so if any other LOST fans are hanging around then maybe you should check these podcasts out.
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http://hellowherearemypeople.tumblr.com/post/149685406480/lets-play-guess-which-season-of-ouat
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Just ordered by Funko's for this year. Amazon has they at like 18.98 and I said no way. They did have a linkt hat was cheaper and I ended up paying like $47.10 for shipping and dolls.
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Your new funkos are going to need a ride LM. How about this one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JMMS6Q6/ref=wl_mb_recs_17_title
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Hmm! I'll have to think on that one.
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Look what I just ordered.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBNKCT6/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Look what I just ordered.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBNKCT6/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I love that one! I have it on a wall scroll. :)
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It's a bit off topic, but I just watched Robin Hood play Ian Fleming on a new tv show called Timeless. He was great! The show itself is pretty enjoyable (though I had my doubts after a shaky pilot episode). And it's always nice to see Matt Frewer again.
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I saw the promos and thought it would be good but haven't had time to check it out.
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Here are a few fan made GIFs I found online:
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Henry's Family Tree...
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u4/Outlasts/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2016%20OUAT%20Henry%20Chart_zpsmyvtuuc4.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/Outlasts/media/Photos%20for%20Dearies/2016%20OUAT%20Henry%20Chart_zpsmyvtuuc4.jpg.html)
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Complicated -- isn't it!
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Re-posting this for Christmas! Enjoy!
:a035:
Once Upon a Night Before Christmas
Authors Note – this is based on the classic Christmas poem ‘A Visit from St. Nicholas’ by Clement C. Moore.
'Twas the night before Christmas, when all thru the town,
The creature known as 'Santa Claus' made his rounds.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with dread,
In fear that 'Santa' might just kill them in their beds.
The children they huddled under their sheets,
While visions of terror preceded each heart-beat.
And Snow in her pixie cut and I like a sap,
Had just settled the springs in our Christmas trap.
When out in the hall there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the peep hole I flew like a flash,
To spy on the prey my trap was to smash.
The dust on the glass of the peep hole was thick,
The thought of the allergens almost made me sick.
When what to my watering eye should suffice,
But a miniature sleigh pulled by eight little mice.
With a tiny gold driver, so sullen and cross,
I knew in a moment that all was not lost.
And having no dignity I started to grin,
For the monster was but a tiny Rumpelstiltskin.
Now Bashful! Now Sneezy!
Now Happy and Sleepy!
On Grumpy! On Smee!
On Dopey and Doc!
To the top of the stair!
To the end of the hall!
Now dash away! Dash away!
Dash away all!
The little man cried, whipping Smee with a thwack,
As he drove up to my door and scuttled under the crack.
Between my legs he passed 'cross the floor,
From the way he was walking I could tell he was sore.
This was hardly the monster about which they'd been warned,
Obviously Henry must've gotten it wrong.
He'd claimed that his moms had been in the wood
Plotting mischief or at least up to no good.
They'd been seen in the woods plotting magical mischief,
Henry even claimed they'd been talking 'Elvish'.
But what had really happened was quite the sight,
For Emma and Regina had joined forces that night.
They'd cast a wicked curse with a 'poof!'
To punish Rumple who kept himself aloof.
He wouldn't be jolly or merry or gay,
In fact he'd barely acknowledge Christmas day.
So they plotted to force him into taking part,
By shooting him with a magical dart.
It didn't make him merry, but instead rather ticked,
For it shrunk him down and forced him to play Saint Nick.
He was dressed all in gold, from his feet to his bust,
And his cloths were all tarnished with loathsome fairy dust.
A bundle of gifts he had loaded on his back,
And he looked like an angry fairy just opening his pack.
His lips how they glowered! His expression, how scary!
His eyes shooting daggers, saying to all, 'Be wary!'
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a scowl,
And the beard on his chin was itchy and fowl.
The stump of a candy cane he held in his teeth,
While on his chest there hung a wreath.
He had a gold tinged face and a padded out belly,
That looked about as real as those on the telly.
He was skinny not plump, a right lean old elf,
And I felt sorry for him, in spite of myself.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
He filled all the stockings, and then turned with a jerk.
And over Emma's stocking a spell he wove,
And giving a satisfied smirk, back under the door he dove.
He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a grumble,
And away they all went, with nary a tumble.
But I heard him exclaim, 'ere he drove out of sight,
"Tell Emma Swan her feet will itch for a fortnight!"
'Oh well.' I said, returning to my wife,
After all, 'All magic comes with a price'.
And I knew my daughter wouldn't trade this for any respite,
For Rumple playing Santa had been far too comical a sight!
:111:
MERRY CHRISTMAS ONCERS!
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ABC needs to get rid of Dungey. See below.
http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/10/once-upon-time-season-7/
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I've got that sinking feeling in my stomach. Combine all this 'new direction' talk with Robert Carlyle's recent interview where he basically says he wants to pack up and go home (to Scotland) and the new OUAT sounds hardly worth the watching. Not that I'd blame RC if he does ask to leave with the crappy materiel he's had to work with in the last 3 seasons, but I find it hard enough to watch this show at times as it is and if they kill him off my motivation to stick with it will be practically gone. :'(
It's weird that this show that has had this perverse unwillingness to let characters change even when the story clearly says they should have changed by now is suddenly wanting to make big changes rather than the gradual types of changes that can really build up a show (think DS9 or LOST). As for the mass cast changing people are cringing over (i just looked around at some response and saw posts that claimed all of Robert, Ginny, Josh and Jennifer want to leave the show), I really don't expect we'll see more than 1 person leave because if that many main draws leave at once then they will hemorrhage viewers.
As for Rumbelle the story is such a crappy mess that a small part of me will be happy to see it over with because I am so frustrated with the combative relationship they've pasted over-top two of the best characters in Once (ok Belle in Once as one of the best is a huge reach, but Belle in Beauty and the Beast absolutely IS one of the best ever so I'll go with it), but I want a happy ending dang it! I don't want another argument or another magical whosits they have to find or defeat... I just want the two of them to say they're sorry and that they've been absolute idiots for the last three seasons and then they can walk off hand and hand into the sunset and leave the rest of them to 'protect' Storybrooke from now on. That I can live with. I don't want a teary death scene and for Belle to stick around pretending she's sorry he's dead and then hooking up with whatever hotty they hire to be next seasons baddy (because let's face it, Belle likes bad boys even if she won't admit it... am I right?).
If I had the time and the talent I'd love to just re-write the whole thing start to finish and fix all the mistakes. Neil would never have died, Emma would have her family and she'd smile at least once an episode, Regina and Hook could be the snarkiest couple ever and Rumbelle would never break up even once! :96:
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And furthermore the history of the Dark One(s) would be a long and rich one, not short and confusing and Merlin wouldn't be a wasted character killed off in such a pointless way!
:ecomcity:
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Agree about the history of the Dark One. We've only seen what 3/4 of them. And let's face it, there were more in capes. I wondered why so few but figured that the Dark One lives forever.
Jennifer has the directing bug. So, her wanting to leave doesn't surprise me. I'm not sure about Ginnifer and Josh except maybe they want away from the cold and into the warm to raise their kids.
For the last few years, the network has focuses on the shows by one producer and I can't remember what they call her. She did "How to Get Away with Murder" and several other of this ink. Plus we have the dumb (and I do mean dumb) sitcoms that they seem to like to foist on us. Are game shows next?
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Guess who's contract is up for renewal and she hasn't heard anything -- Jennifer Morrison. I bet Ginnifer, Josh, Lana, and Robert's are up for renewal also. Remember Castle. This was the exact thing they did when they almost cancelled the show and then did cancel the show.
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Yeah I just read that about Jennifer and something about the show wrapping up at the end of season six and going into a completely new direction for season seven, possibly with none of the main cast back.... But where all these rumors came from I'm not sure yet. The only verifiable articles I've read are Robert Carlyles interview about wanting to go home and Jennifer's statement about her contract not being renewed yet.
Still I guess I kind of hope that this is true and they wrap the show up this season ( granted I want this done right and not in a hasty crap pile kind of fashion) and as for the new direction, I'd be willing to try it out, but I don't feel like I have to watch it if the main Once cast is done.
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Seems the Dungey met with the Eddy and Adam to talk about the show's future. All had ideas and Eddy and Swants it respected like LOST was. She gave an interview at upfronts for Spring and mentioned Once and it all came from there. TV Line covered it but noted emphatically that nothing was set in stone.
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:D
http://arctic-ladybug.deviantart.com/art/Silly-Rumbelle-Comic-328701589
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Love it.
Latest article says that they're moving away from Emma to Regina. Now I know Jennifer just finished directing her first movie and had to edit it. I figured that was why she wasn't shown as much. Also, the story was to center on the Charmings. I'm betting they want to continue the show but not give any raises. That's Dungey's mode of operation. Plus she is somehow related to the one who does alot of the other ABC shows.
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kiss1 Happy Skin Deep Day Once fans! kiss1
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Not liking this at all from Twitter.
amyadams @way2distracted 16h16 hours ago
Bobby making everyone laugh RIP
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Not liking this at all from Twitter.
amyadams @way2distracted 16h16 hours ago
Bobby making everyone laugh RIP
What does this mean???
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Haven't a clue. Already saw a picture of Jen and Robert embracing and crying. Now this accompanied by a picture of them joking. What got me was the RIP at the end. That means Rest in Peace in most instances. No response from the poster.
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Haven't a clue. Already saw a picture of Jen and Robert embracing and crying. Now this accompanied by a picture of them joking. What got me was the RIP at the end. That means Rest in Peace in most instances. No response from the poster.
It's all rather confusing. Hopefully the RIP references the show and not someone dying. :o
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Ok I googled this and found an article...
http://en.mediamass.net/people/robert-carlyle/deathhoax.html
Apparently there was a death hoax. What a jerky think to do! ???
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Never saw the "hoax." I figured it was talking about leaving the show. Since we have heard NOTHING about who will return, I found it disconcerting to say the least.
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Oh dearie me, I just found a couple of new tempting Once products on Amazon...
https://smile.amazon.com/Once-Upon-Rumpelstiltskin-Spell-Glass/dp/B01AK9VRJ8/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1489582353&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=Once+Upon+a+Time+Canvas+print+Rumpelstiltskin
https://smile.amazon.com/Once-Upon-Rumpelstiltskin-Favor-Glass/dp/B01AK9SSGS/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489582353&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=Once+Upon+a+Time+Canvas+print+Rumpelstiltskin
:)
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So did you order?
And do you have this?
https://smile.amazon.com/Once-Upon-a-Time-Rumplestiltskin/dp/B00X0Y4L80/ref=sr_1_5?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1489594925&sr=1-5&keywords=Once+Upon+a+Time
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I do have the funko Rumple and I'm highly tempted on the pint glasses. :97:
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Have you heard the suggestions for season 7? They're either going to have Snow/Charming/Henry leave Storybrooke and age and die with Henry coming back as an old man or have Emma/Hook and Regina and Gold out in the real world fighting evil. Regina eventually teams up with Emma/Hook but no word on what Gold does. Both sound stupid to me.
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Have you heard the suggestions for season 7? They're either going to have Snow/Charming/Henry leave Storybrooke and age and die with Henry coming back as an old man or have Emma/Hook and Regina and Gold out in the real world fighting evil. Regina eventually teams up with Emma/Hook but no word on what Gold does. Both sound stupid to me.
I'm not even sure how to respond to that nonsense. It's just bizarre to me. :banghead:
Update on the Rumple pint glasses. Yeah... I caved and bought a set. They're just so cute! I hope I like them as much when they actually get here.
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Figured you would.
Yeah -- I find it stupid. Plus Henry as an adult most people won't buy.
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Just found this discussion over on a web site:
http://tvline.com/2017/03/14/once-upon-a-time-season-6-finale-spoilers-emma-gideon/
David Hess says:
March 14, 2017 at 7:06 PM
Didn’t Rumple mention something about the final battle in the pilot episode.
Jane says:
March 14, 2017 at 7:44 PM
I don’t recall if Rumple said anything about it in the pilot, but Henry mentioned it to Emma in the pilot. He wanted her to break the curse so that the “final battle could begin.” She said, “I’m not fighting any battles kid.”
Shar says:
March 14, 2017 at 8:35 PM
Rumple did mention the final battle in the pilot episode when he was telling Snow and Charming to get Emma to safety, he said “Get the child to safety, get the child to safety and on it’s 28th birthday the child will return, the child will find you and the final battle will begin.”
Chris says:
March 15, 2017 at 1:18 AM
The Final Battle, now I really want this to be the last season
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Sure I remember that line about how the final battle will begin. One of the hosts of Once podcast mentions it at least once or twice a season.
At least that proves they remember something about season one!
-rollinglaugh-
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Going back to Season 4, and Frozen, look what I found in April 7/14 Entertainment magazine.
Page 97
Frozen: The Ending You Never Saw
An Evil Elsa, Snow Monsters, and an Avalanche!
That list nutshells just a few of the possible endings for 2013's Frozen. The animated blockbuster underwent a herculean creative process as Disney's story team, led by producer Peter Del Vecho and director Christ Buck and Jennifer Lee, considered numerous iterations of a tale based loosely on Han Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen."
No longer quoting:
Elsa and Anna weren't sisters or even royal.
Elsa froze her own heart when she was stood up at the altar on her wedding day.
Elsa froze her heart so she would never again love.
Final act:
battle between misfit snowmen and guards
Hans triggering an avalanche that threatens to destroy Arrendelle.
Anna unfreezing Elsa's heart to save the kingdom and love again.
Any sound at least a little familiar?
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Found this gif tribute to Emma and Baelfire. Oh how good this show could have been.
http://boushh2187.tumblr.com/post/159075343259/cruella-cassidyswan-its-like-poetry-yes
:'(
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Oh my heck Bobby and Michael Raymond James are at a convention in Paris and they're totally ripping on the show!
Some snippets I can remember from what I've read...
Bobby says that having Gideon shrink back into a baby was rubbish.
Bobby hates that they never acknowledge what Zelena did to Rumple when she had his dagger and that he should hate her because she murdered his son.
Bobby hated the stuff with him and the Evil Queen and he hates that Gold never apologizes to Belle for it either.
...wow! Just when I think I couldn't love this guy more. I feel like jumping up on a chair and chanting, 'one of us! One of us! One of us!' -rollinglaugh-
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It really surprised me that Bobby signed on. More later.
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It really surprised me that Bobby signed on. More later.
It surprised me too, but I just figure that they must've waved a load of cash under his nose and I think he's said his kids are in school there (Vancouver). It's certainly not because he's enjoying the show anymore. Though he seems to adore all his co-stars.
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The cast seems to really love each other and committed to the last show. I really wonder why they want Jennifer back as Emma for the first show. I blame all the problems in the last two years on the new President of ABC. She is an idiot who lives in Shondaland production.
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LM have you ever heard of Heather Dale? I heard a song of hers called 'Mordred's Lullaby' on a Celtic music podcast and thought of you. It looks like Arthurian legend is a big part of her musical life.
A link to her CD on Amazon
https://smile.amazon.com/Avalon-Heather-Dale/dp/B004J9508U/ref=tmm_msc_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1507044209&sr=1-1
A link to a youtube of Mordred's Lullaby'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny7NZPfl0l4
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I love Celtic music -- Celtic Thunder and Celtic Women in particular. I'll listen to this.
By the way --I still blame ABC's problems on that woman in charge. And the Inhumans -- I will not try it again.
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I love Celtic Thunder and Celtic Woman! Haven't gotten used to the new line-ups yet. I miss George! :03: